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« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2009, 11:07:25 PM »

no i cant imaging dragging a vibrating needle through someones skin... the concept is just creepy
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« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2009, 02:22:06 AM »

Btw, Joshua, do you currently have access to a foundry?  If you do, how expensive is it?  Do you have to work in pairs or small teams during casting?

I do at the university I graduated from. My friend is now the Instructor and she lets me cast a few times a semester there.
I also have a primitive foundry in my backyard. I can only cast smaller items in that though. (Less then 10 lbs)
The one at the school can pour 265 lbs and the molds are made of Ceramic shell.

At the bigger pours we pour in groups of four

The MC Oversees the procedure, operates the furnace and kiln, Skims the slag and direct operations while pouring.
The Pour master who controls the crucible during the pour and gives instructions to the others.
Shank who works to support the crucible and helps in aligning and removing the crucible from the furnace and during the pour. All at the instruction of the pour master.
and "up down" crane operation. This person runs the hoist to raise or lower the crucible again only at the instruction of the pour master.

My little back yard foundry is a one man job.

Here are a few videos of my good friend down in the foundry working.
The man in the red shirt was my professor who has just retired the woman at the 27 second mark is now the professor and was attending the school when I was there, she is one of my best friends and a true pyro at heart Cheesy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD2l3xfYhFA

A few more from our school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmL9RKSEl3A

This one show the procedure well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z8LmJ9RfeU

The one thing that isnt captured in these is the heat.
Unreal hot!

The room gets to around 120 and in the suit its worse. about 30 seconds into the pouring stage the heat will distort the glass on your face shield and your vision gets wonky for a few minutes.
The furnace is around 2100 at full throttle and the kiln when its unloaded is around 1200.

Jobs like putting the shank on the crucible don't look so bad in pictures but many times if there is any delay your gloves will ignite and you have to back off and throw them down.
Fire extinguishers are not an option in case of an accident as the sudden change in temperature can cause a massive explosion!
We have had a few minor accidents (Burns mostly) but in most cases you deal with them until the pour is done, stopping isnt an option so there is normally a few alternates who step in in case of an indecent.

The videos make it look playful and it can be, but the respect these student have for the situation is top notch. They all understand a working student foundry is dangerous.
It builds such a strong atmosphere of friends in that room. It just cant be beat!
Sorry to ramble on but I am proud of my foundry there and the students and friends I met there.

That room holds a special place in my heart, Its where I met my wife and where she asked me out minutes before a pour.  Two years later Its also where I asked her to be my wife.
Cheesy
good times

If you EVER get the chance to pour metal do it!!! its addicting! the heat, the smell.  ahhhhhhhh

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« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2009, 08:15:23 PM »

Thanks for the links, I'm going to check them out now.... Yeah, I LOVE foundry work!!!  I LOVE Bronze!!!  You actually have a backyard foundry?!?!  That's one of my top five goals in life!!!  You lucky bastard!!!  I really want to set one up... It's too early for me to start planning just yet though.   I've done both the sand pour, and I've also used the ceramic shell technique (which is just hands down the best! .. I worry that it wouldn't be economical for a home situation though).   I'd be greatly appreciative if I could get your input at some point down the line, maybe just pick your brains about where you got your equipment from, how much one should expect to invest, and how much is involved in upkeep.. etc.  I'm TERRIBLE at welding, I've only learned arc and tig and I'm just no good at either.. and I know if I want my own hoby shop, I'm going to need to know how to maintain it and fix problems that will develop down the line.  I know at this school we actually built the crucible ourselves for the iron pour.. massive thing!  The only part I was actively involved in was grinding down those welding bumps (like I said, I'm no good at welding!)  Anyway, thanks again!! Smiley

You know on a side note, at some point I'm going to need to start a thread about bronze casting specifically, I really would love to know what other taxidermists out there are interested in metal casting.  Taxidermy work and bronze sculpture is just such a beautiful combination!
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« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2009, 09:28:51 PM »

Thanks for the links, I'm going to check them out now.... Yeah, I LOVE foundry work!!!  I LOVE Bronze!!!  You actually have a backyard foundry?!?!  That's one of my top five goals in life!!!  You lucky bastard!!!  I really want to set one up... It's too early for me to start planning just yet though.   I've done both the sand pour, and I've also used the ceramic shell technique (which is just hands down the best! .. I worry that it wouldn't be economical for a home situation though).   I'd be greatly appreciative if I could get your input at some point down the line, maybe just pick your brains about where you got your equipment from, how much one should expect to invest, and how much is involved in upkeep.. etc.  I'm TERRIBLE at welding, I've only learned arc and tig and I'm just no good at either.. and I know if I want my own hoby shop, I'm going to need to know how to maintain it and fix problems that will develop down the line.  I know at this school we actually built the crucible ourselves for the iron pour.. massive thing!  The only part I was actively involved in was grinding down those welding bumps (like I said, I'm no good at welding!)  Anyway, thanks again!! Smiley

You know on a side note, at some point I'm going to need to start a thread about bronze casting specifically, I really would love to know what other taxidermists out there are interested in metal casting.  Taxidermy work and bronze sculpture is just such a beautiful combination!

Rock on Bonnie.
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I may have a hand in building an Iron Cupola this summer.
I want to do some sand mold castings for Iron, Ive never had good luck with iron though.
Ahhh Welding, ITs a tough task at times. Fun but annoying.
I am good at brazing bronze with an Oxy Acetylene set up, but I suck with a mig welder. Tig welding isnt so bad though.

As for my backyard set up.
Its primitive!I  probably didn't spend more then $150 on it. But success my rate is not 100% so I always make silicone molds for my original stuff.
But in all honesty the stuff I cast out there is more for the sake of casting. And not for refined art work.

Ive been out of the bronze game for the last few years but I'm getting back at it.

As for ceramic shell at home. I have a friend who does that. She adds a suspending agent to the blend. It only needs to be mixed for an hour a day rather then the constant mix we had to do.
Its pricey but you would probably be surprised how many people have at home bronze foundry's.
I am in a small town and I know of 4 in town.
All I can say is get involved with blacksmith groups and backyard casting groups. They are all friendly and  helpful.
Remember Bronze casting has been around for thousands of years. And they didn't have Gas furnaces and ceramic shell molds.
They had the essentials to any foundry though.
Clay, Metal, Fire and Passion!

If you are lucky you can find a group of artists at your school who have the drive to learn how to do this outside of the class room.
They are normally the odd ones who never leave the studio but they know what they are doing!

Go for it Start a Bronze and metal sculpture thread.
Ill post on it.
I am starting a project soon actually By feb 25th. Molding and casting a replica of a Celtic Spear head using primitive molding techniques. (Clay, Sand and straw)
Who knows how it will turn out. lol


 
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« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2009, 09:29:51 PM »

welding... i dont get it
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