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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2009, 10:10:13 PM »

Deerstuffer, that's twice you've written bullsh1t here.  Now where did anyone say "my way is the only way".  What I SAID was that it was the ONLY PROFESSIONAL WAY.  If you want to be a hack, you won't have to worry about being "professional" too long anyway.  Ryan's comment didn't say one way or the other except that he "found it".  I don't know that you could "find" a PROFESSIONAL REPAIR at all.  Look at that African KRAPPP that Ron Allen did and ask him how he "pinned" all those repairs. I think of all the great and grand masters of this trade and how they strived to make pieces of work last well past their lifetimes.  Sometime if you're ever in Washington, D.C., go to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History and look at those grand animals and birds that were done by people like that.  There's a 14 foot tall elephant in the rotunda area.  And he's been there several lifetimes. See how many pin repairs you can find on that beast. When you walk into the "Modern" wing, look overhead at the leaping tiger.  That animal has been washed and actually recolored and it was mounted almost a hundred years ago.  There's a pride of lions attacking a Cape buffalo right in front of you and within arms reach were in not for the cordons.  Tell me where pins were used to repair the bullet holes.  The PROFESSIONALS on here have tried to explain the consequences of half assed work to you and you still come here trying to be the white knight in shining armor championing shoddy workmanship.  So touche' to you.  I'd never be so arrogant as to defend inferior work practices.
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« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2009, 10:12:42 PM »

I do both i sew then pin, then hammer if needed.
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2009, 12:41:02 AM »

Deerstuffer, that's twice you've written bullsh1t here.  Now where did anyone say "my way is the only way".  What I SAID was that it was the ONLY PROFESSIONAL WAY.  If you want to be a hack, you won't have to worry about being "professional" too long anyway.  Ryan's comment didn't say one way or the other except that he "found it".  I don't know that you could "find" a PROFESSIONAL REPAIR at all.  Look at that African KRAPPP that Ron Allen did and ask him how he "pinned" all those repairs. I think of all the great and grand masters of this trade and how they strived to make pieces of work last well past their lifetimes.  Sometime if you're ever in Washington, D.C., go to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History and look at those grand animals and birds that were done by people like that.  There's a 14 foot tall elephant in the rotunda area.  And he's been there several lifetimes. See how many pin repairs you can find on that beast. When you walk into the "Modern" wing, look overhead at the leaping tiger.  That animal has been washed and actually recolored and it was mounted almost a hundred years ago.  There's a pride of lions attacking a Cape buffalo right in front of you and within arms reach were in not for the cordons.  Tell me where pins were used to repair the bullet holes.  The PROFESSIONALS on here have tried to explain the consequences of half assed work to you and you still come here trying to be the white knight in shining armor championing shoddy workmanship.  So touche' to you.  I'd never be so arrogant as to defend inferior work practices.

and by no means was this a professional mount but the pinned area, most likely the bullet hole, was pretty much invisible, you had to feel aroung to find it
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2009, 03:02:51 PM »

BUT I SEW ANYTHING BIGGER THEN A DIME SIZE. I NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO  COME OUT MY HOLES
BY PINS. ITS HOW DO PIN IT.GOT TO GET THAT HAIR IN PLACE RIGHT.
 
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2009, 08:02:57 PM »

In reality sewing doesn't take THAT long.....If i where to buy a mount of someone tho i wouldn't want a hole tacked up , i would want it sewed. i don't want those pins to come loose over time.
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« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2009, 09:44:36 AM »

Thanks for the tip.very nice couldnt even tell it was there
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« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2009, 03:43:27 PM »

Uhhh, I sew most everything...cept' if I miss it...and I'm likewise in a hustle.

You mean to tell me...with a great hide paste, and galvanized brad....you're worried about seeing rust on the hair of this deer years down the road.

Cripes...the hair is over 2 inches long on this deer!  I'll move on to the next deer and not think twice about it.
Still a quality repair if done correctly.

Geez!

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« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2009, 07:43:45 PM »

Yes, that's what I'm telling you Old Boar.  Galvanizing is simply the result of galvanic corrosion which plates iron or steel with zinc and that's subject to flaking off and rusting BIG TIME.  The old junk piles were once filled with galvanize milk buckets that had rusted out.  I suppose if you live in a desert with extremely low humidity, it might not be a problem, but I've never lived there.  I know what I've seen along the Atlantic coast.
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« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2009, 09:03:19 PM »

I thought this post was 6 feet under now put it back to rest
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« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2009, 11:13:03 PM »

I shoot them farther back.
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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2009, 07:26:46 AM »

I know at least one of the "masters" on this site that pins some holes. Some need sewing some work fine with pins.
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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2009, 07:45:17 AM »

BigBore, did you think that up all by yourself?  Is that the best you can come up with?  If you're satisfied with doing half-assed work, then that tutorial is for you.  If not, you sew.  And "NO" it's not in "any book" but since you're dumb enough to want to say that, perhaps you could show all of us what "book" you've read that explained any taxidermy related issue UNIVERSALLY.  I don't know your experience level, but from some of your posts, you don't have that much experience.  I know guys who refuse to use hide paste, guys who refuse to put a second eye in a wall mounted fish, guys who stretch form lengths without corresponding width changes.  If you are a taxidermist in the realm of the old masters (and the new ones), you didn't and don't look for the easiest way out of screwing something up.  Too often I see guys claiming to be "taxidermists" taking shortcuts at the expense of their paying customers.  So I guess you'd be satisfied with a new car with a leather interior that had a tear in the seat that had been "repaired" with that "leather repair kit"Huh?  Not me.  I paid for a NEW car, and if I screw it up later, then that's on me.  I suffer fools very badly and I suffer makebelieve "experts" even worse. Now read my signature block below.
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« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2009, 09:40:23 AM »

BigBore, did you think that up all by yourself?  Is that the best you can come up with?  If you're satisfied with doing half-assed work, then that tutorial is for you.  If not, you sew.  And "NO" it's not in "any book" but since you're dumb enough to want to say that, perhaps you could show all of us what "book" you've read that explained any taxidermy related issue UNIVERSALLY.  I don't know your experience level, but from some of your posts, you don't have that much experience.  I know guys who refuse to use hide paste, guys who refuse to put a second eye in a wall mounted fish, guys who stretch form lengths without corresponding width changes.  If you are a taxidermist in the realm of the old masters (and the new ones), you didn't and don't look for the easiest way out of screwing something up.  Too often I see guys claiming to be "taxidermists" taking shortcuts at the expense of their paying customers.  So I guess you'd be satisfied with a new car with a leather interior that had a tear in the seat that had been "repaired" with that "leather repair kit"Huh?  Not me.  I paid for a NEW car, and if I screw it up later, then that's on me.  I suffer fools very badly and I suffer makebelieve "experts" even worse. Now read my signature block below.

I don't have much experience your right. I had a guy come up to me with a mounted bobcat in the back of his truck his dog got ahold of it and chewed to leg off it. It was a really nice looking bobcat and he was going to throw it away. So I asked if I could have it and he said yes. I needed to jawset out of it and thought about repairing the form so I was looking a the mount really good and I ask the guy when was it mounted and he said he 1980. So I took it home and was looking for the cut. I couldn't feel it or see it. After separating the back hair on the back I noticed some little shining heads. Got to looking closer cause you couldn't tell anything about the cut and how it was attached back together. Low and behold the person that mounted it used little small pins to pin it together. After 29 yrs the hide never separated ANY. So I pulled on the hide very hard to get the it of the form and the guy had pinned the whole back of the cat with about 100 pins. You couldn't see the pins or even feel where he attached it back they held strong for 29 yrs with no problems. Beside the legs chewed off it the mount looked damn good. That was his method and it would still be holding. I sew my holes too. So WHY knock on someone that it showing a method he uses because it is DIFFERENT from yours.  "If the truth offends you, then by all means, avoid it. " the statement you make that pinning a hole is halfass work if you can prove that then that signature line of yours would mean something until then I say PROVE it and I'll accept it is true. But to the original poster thanks for tutorial and don't let egotistical people (George) to ruin of showing us your ideals.
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« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2009, 09:57:53 AM »

I have a hard time understanding why people get so angry over such trivial things Huh Huh
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« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2009, 08:56:54 PM »

I sew also. Part of my hide prepping
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