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« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2009, 08:10:36 PM »

ljones, when static(no mechanical aggitation) pickling, and tanning, you really should use a rehydration bath, before the pickle, even though you only salt for 2 days. Your skins are not getting fully REHYDRATED, by throughing them straight into the pickle. If you had a round drum, that would be ok, because of the aggitation provided by the round drum.

A surfactant, cuts the surface tension of water(makes water wetter LOL), and greatly speeds up rehydration, as well as aiding in THROUGH rehydration. Knoblochs, and Rittels, both sell a surfactant. Try this just once, and I gurantee your shaving times, will be cut in half. First call one of the 2 companies I mentioned, and order a surfactant(re-wetting agent).

Allow 2.5 gallons of water per cape.  To every gallon of water, add 1/4 lb of salt, to 80deg water. Follow the directions on the surfactant, and add as directed.

Since your capes are only salted 2 days, leave them in this solution, for 5 hours, and gently stir, once an hour. Pull and drain for 30 minutes, THEN put them in your pickle. You should notice a BIG difference in your shaving . No more wrinkles, or curled edges. Skins should be like a limp dish rag. Have a good one!
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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2009, 08:37:46 PM »

thanks for that info oldshaver i will try that rehydration step with a wetting agent  on my next batch of hides
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« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2009, 08:38:10 AM »

ljones, when static(no mechanical aggitation) pickling, and tanning, you really should use a rehydration bath, before the pickle, even though you only salt for 2 days. Your skins are not getting fully REHYDRATED, by throughing them straight into the pickle. If you had a round drum, that would be ok, because of the aggitation provided by the round drum.

A surfactant, cuts the surface tension of water(makes water wetter LOL), and greatly speeds up rehydration, as well as aiding in THROUGH rehydration. Knoblochs, and Rittels, both sell a surfactant. Try this just once, and I gurantee your shaving times, will be cut in half. First call one of the 2 companies I mentioned, and order a surfactant(re-wetting agent).

Allow 2.5 gallons of water per cape.  To every gallon of water, add 1/4 lb of salt, to 80deg water. Follow the directions on the surfactant, and add as directed.

Since your capes are only salted 2 days, leave them in this solution, for 5 hours, and gently stir, once an hour. Pull and drain for 30 minutes, THEN put them in your pickle. You should notice a BIG difference in your shaving . No more wrinkles, or curled edges. Skins should be like a limp dish rag. Have a good one!
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« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2009, 10:27:40 AM »

what would the surfacant be called from Rittels or Knoblochs?
I've got a variety of Knoblochs chemicals anything from Pre-tan 110 to the Relax R stuff or whatever it's called.
Basically a soap or detergen is a surfacant correct?
I probably didn't spell that right! LOL
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« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2009, 03:24:51 PM »

i had the same question bobbi  after i looked in the catalog looks like they both have several things for the rehydration bath i am not sure which one to order  can you give use some product names oldshaver ? or anyone
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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2009, 10:55:09 AM »

Find a wholesale grocer, I buy food grade salt no iodine for under $6.00 for 50lbs.. I can but a 25lb bag or a pallet. if I buy the pallet its a little cheaper.... <ost of the cattle feed salt is crsuhed rock salt and will work in a pinch, but if you tan at the shop its dirty very dirty.
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« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2010, 08:15:15 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2010, 10:43:45 PM »

Too late already been suggested LOL
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« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2010, 07:13:47 PM »

All the K-Tann haters are going to love this.
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« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2010, 09:15:01 PM »

Doubtful.  We just consider the source.
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« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2010, 09:44:03 PM »

i dont know what this post got brought back up for,    but i did find out what was causing the blue color on the hides,   it was the prussiate of soda anti caking agent in the salt ,  it reacts with iron to make the blue color ,  i changed salt and solved the problem
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« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2010, 01:32:14 AM »

Doubtful.  We just consider the source.
WE............ as in the a MINORITY group  LOL
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« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2010, 06:59:50 AM »

The salt I use has the anti cake in it, and I have tanned with soft water and hard water and never ever have I seen blue color caused by this?Huh
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« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2010, 07:47:43 AM »

i am using well water evidently it has the mineral iron in it, got my answer from thr salt producer
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« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2010, 10:48:45 AM »

I guess I'll never understand taxidermists being a penny wise and a pound foolish.  Since when is table salt/ bakers salt/pickling salt "high priced".  I buy 20 pound bags of bakers salt in the local Food Lion for less than $4. I learned how to salt before I learned how to tan and one pound of salt will go a LONG LONG way if done correctly. The salt I buy has NO additives and never cakes unless I leave it open out in the weather. Saving a few pennies buying cattle food salt makes absolutely no sense to me and if it's costing you that much, you need to raise your prices.


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