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« on: September 22, 2006, 05:36:42 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 08:18:25 PM »
Lets see how these look.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 01:00:57 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 01:02:43 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 01:05:17 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 09:43:02 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 09:45:08 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2006, 03:24:06 PM »
 wanted to show a perch under the surface.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2006, 09:43:31 AM »
B.Fish,

Are you sure your bottom picture is from a yellow perch? It looks like a European perch (Perca fluviatilis) to me.

Greetings Peter
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 10:25:09 AM »
Quote from: Peter Span on October 03, 2006, 09:43:31 AM
B.Fish,

Are you sure your bottom picture is from a yellow perch? It looks like a European perch (Perca fluviatilis) to me.

Greetings Peter

Considering there is a rock bass and a crappie in the photo I kind of doubt it Peter. I've seen both and the ones I have seen are very hard to tell apart externally. Sure wish our perch got as big as your european perch!
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 07:19:38 PM »
Hey Guys.. the Euro Perch has this Y pattern in the 4Th bar split into the lat line it then makes a V to the top of the spines.
Thats the only way I know of telling them apart.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 07:27:36 PM »
Quote from: Buck,Black Forest Eyes on October 03, 2006, 07:19:38 PM
Hey Guys.. the Euro Perch has this Y pattern in the 4Th bar split into the lat line it then makes a V to the top of the spines.
Thats the only way I know of telling them apart.
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And it's absolutely illegal to have european perch in the U.S. although I know a prof that thinks someone may have them here doing research on them even though they are not supposed to.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2006, 09:01:30 PM »
Peter, I believe you are right! I was not familiar with the European and decided to look further on the subject. I started with the barring patterns like Buck had mentioned. I wasn't totally sold on it as I found both species having the  broken  bar on the 4th sometimes (Although I must admit the European has this more often). What was the deciding factor for me was the black spot on the back of the front dorsal. Thanks Peter for heads up. I learned something today. Are there any other ways to tell the differences? From what I read today this was all I deciphered.
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2006, 09:12:15 PM »
I don't want to ruffle any feathers but I guess that never stopped me before.  Grin

Among taxonomists the  biggest warning about classifying fish is NEVER EVER rely soley on coloration or outside markings. You have to take it farther than that as in gill rakers, scale counts, Pyloric caecae, spine counts, fin ray counts and ultimately DNA.  etc. etc.

Sorry but I can show you all kinds of variatons on the bar markings of perca flavescens from my ponds. and I wasn't aware Europe had rock bass and crappies.

Honest I'm not trying to sound like a know it all.  I guess I just can't help it with fish. They are my life.

Sure hope this thread doesn't go the way of the silver paint.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2006, 09:21:01 PM »
Cecil,
Not trying to clip your wings, but your looking at the wrong photo. Check out the 2nd photo under my first post.
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