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« on: August 18, 2010, 11:03:04 AM »

since ive been asked about it a hunert times LOL! :D   here it is~~







Now,  there are spots on the mannikin that are outlined in sharpie that get rasped down.  The lower jaw of antelope is nearly STRAIGHT and does notr contain the big sweeping chin typical on mannikins.    the gland patch has been clayed in behind and below the eye orbits and the skin will get tucked into the clay there.   additionally,  Ive added a jaw bone as they are fairly pronounced yet the mannikins completely lack the jaw.   The ridge of the septum carries all the way up to between the horns,  which no mannikins have as well.     The nose pad has als been rasped to show more definition as well as a tuck cut created for the septum split leading from the nose to the upper lip.  Also the caruncle area of each eye has been depened to allow a more forward view of the eye..this also has a bondo septum .   Also the fronts of the eye orbits on the mannikin have been rasped down as they are too thick.  Additional rasping has been done to accent the muscle behind the lip as well .... ;)
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 12:04:27 PM »

Unfortunately a couple of nice people in here would be eating crow if theyd seen my prepped form too, lol. I know us easterners dont know anything about the bottom lip roll and overhang, or the final material to butt the skin smoothly to the horn sheath, or tightening up the septum center split, or to cleft the top of the nose when lifting the septum wings, the unique eyelid angle...should I keep going Ron? Lol, I know you know what I mean...
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 12:08:28 PM »

for petes sake  dont give it ALL away!!! :D :D   I always forget the word "cleft"   too close to "clevage"  something i know nothing about anymore... :-\ :D


is this similiar to Whitetails??? ;D
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 12:42:38 PM »

Who taught you how to do that Ronny ??? ??? ;D
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 12:58:51 PM »

Well, I'm saving this for my first pronghorn :)
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 12:59:02 PM »

Gee thanks guys, some great info. Cant wait to do some more pronghorns!
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 01:57:01 PM »

"bondo septum"...i assume you made a mold of a real septum and cast it with thinned bondo??? what did you use for your spetum mold......silicone????
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 01:57:36 PM »

Thats awesome! I have been wondering if the antelope look different in other parts of the country because the forms sure dont look right for Wyo goats. I have been winging it on my sculpting and while its not as good as yours at least I see I was on the right track. Thanks so much for this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 02:01:44 PM »

 :D  The lopers of nevada typically are 3/4 to 1" longer on the snout than alot of them.  additionaly  alot of forms lack the slight "roman nose" affect... ;)


Stay tuned  for the bondo septum system coming to a thread near you.... ;D
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 02:06:24 PM »

The roman nose effect is the thing I notice most. They all come with those skinny little faces. Most of the taxidermist around here mount them up like that. Then the eyes stick out from the head so much that mounted they look like gonzo from the muppets. Again thanks for the post(s), I love your work. As always well done!
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 02:34:32 PM »

RDA, thank you a bunch for the pics. I'm in Texas, so I don't do a bunch of speedgoats. But, I really love them. Your pics really show some things I've wondered about.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 04:19:13 PM »

Ron, what about that slight indention on top about one inch before the nose wings. LOL
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 04:28:53 PM »

RDA, you da man!! I'll be watchin for the bondo septum tutorial too. I'll be huntin these critters in about a week so hopefully I'll get to try it out.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 05:16:25 PM »

Unfortunately a couple of nice people in here would be eating crow if theyd seen my prepped form too, lol. I know us easterners dont know anything about the bottom lip roll and overhang, or the final material to butt the skin smoothly to the horn sheath, or tightening up the septum center split, or to cleft the top of the nose when lifting the septum wings, the unique eyelid angle...should I keep going Ron? Lol, I know you know what I mean...

You've got to be the most sensitive guy on taxi.net Bill. I don't mean sensitive as in a gay way either. Jason has a lot more knowledge and you should let him teach you a thing or two.  :-*
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2010, 06:18:34 PM »

hammer  the indentation behind the nose gets filled with clay  as they have a slight dip there and also show a tendonous connection from the top of the septum cartlidge there  which is easily formed in the clay after mounting... :o ;)

also note:  Gary Powell tuaght me abut sizing the glands as small, med, large and non-existant.  This is determined pre skinning as you simply stick your finger tips into the tuck.  1/2 deep is small   while ive had some that the tuck was an inch!   Also some will have none,  so a small clay gland with no tuck is what does the trick...  If you didnt skin it,  kill photos can often be used to determine the gland size by the visibility of the tuck line  this froms the back of a sort of mask around the eye in the hair patterns..visable in most reference.  or simply do them "average"... :D ;)
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