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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 05:18:07 AM »

Paul Kantor?  Don't know if I know him from the association or seminars/meetings?

I doubt he has ever been to any meeting, he and dablemouth used to be big buddies.

Both are deserving of each other and neither do work of any quality. The one thinks he is an outdoor writer, if you read his first works, you have read all of his works, he just changes the poor peoples names and place where the hunt ot fishing trip occurred.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 06:27:23 AM »

You must have a commercial building to do any work??? Check with your county for a conditional use permit, to allow you to use your home for the business
Wheres all the Mizzu folks on this? Would like to here all there thoughts.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 07:18:46 AM »

Just buy a license...duh Cool

I did get the license from Missouri, and have joined the Missouri taxidermy association, all the things i thought i was suppose to do, i have been learning to do taxidermy for the last 2 years, have paid the piper as you say, by sending my money into all the organizations  to help do my part to support.

I apologize. I read your post wrong.

Doesn't sound right and I agree with James that you need to contact your association. I think Cole is on the board, maybe he can clue us all in as to whats going on.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 07:35:35 AM »

I too  apparantly misread your post. and I appologize  I agree if the law says you cannot work out of your home there is a problem unless it is zoned strictly residential but even then what about the folks that sell Avon, Pampered Chef or offer babysitting services.

Sounds to me that this is something the MO assoc needs to be looking into---and I thnk cole is doing just that

I work  part time out of my residential property in a seperate building --I guess I am at fault too  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2010, 08:32:51 AM »

The fellow in question has never been a member of The MTA. He has in fact tried to turn over the apple cart before. He has aimed most of his tirade at taxidermist in the St Louis area, where Zoning restriction are common. He charges for his work, that is for sure, unfortunatly his quality is not there by todays standards. He is losing buisness and has been forced to lay off employees. These so called part timers are doing better work than him and are starting to conrol the market. He calls himself a master taxidermist of World class quality. But by not improving over the last 25 years he has fell behind.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2010, 09:02:02 AM »

Sounds like he might be related to a guy . Same type of mentality anyways.

When you start sticking your nose in other people's business, it might be your nose that ends up getting stuck in your own business.

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2010, 09:30:15 AM »

I don't know how it is in where you live but I have my business in a residential area here in Ohio.  In order to do so I had to get what is called a ZONING VARIANCE here.

You have to apply at "city hall".  You have to give a detailed explanation about what you will be doing at council meeting.  All my neighbors within 500 feet had to be notified so that they could come to the council meeting and complain if they wanted.  Nobody bothered and I got my variance.  I have been running full time here about 14 years.  It's a SMALL shop but no one could stop it now unless I made some kind of nusiance out of it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2010, 09:44:02 AM »

I don't know how it is in where you live but I have my business in a residential area here in Ohio.  In order to do so I had to get what is called a ZONING VARIANCE here.

You have to apply at "city hall".  You have to give a detailed explanation about what you will be doing at council meeting.  All my neighbors within 500 feet had to be notified so that they could come to the council meeting and complain if they wanted.  Nobody bothered and I got my variance.  I have been running full time here about 14 years.  It's a SMALL shop but no one could stop it now unless I made some kind of nusiance out of it.

this is we had to do also, we went to a township meeting that all our neighbors were allowed to come to and mike gave a presentation on what exactly he would be doing. he does not tan his hides so we were not using any crazy out of the ordinary chemicals or anything. only two families voted  against us. they let us have our variance. by the way our variance cost $500. just to let you know.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2010, 10:17:31 AM »

Copper are you sure that it is Paul Kantor?  Don't know if I know him from the association or seminars/meetings?  

Whoever it is he is a bag.  I guess if he succeeds then he will get more business by default.  What 2 counties has he done this to?



Franklin County and St. Charles county is my understanding
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2010, 10:37:20 AM »

Contact Craig Lewis with the UTA  maybe he can help you or lead you in the right direction
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2010, 12:11:02 PM »

Sounds like the guy is running scared.  If you have to call the local government to put others out of business to succeed, then you should examine yourself.  Quality, value (not price, but what the customer gets for their money), and service is what sells taxidermy.  If you have all 3 elements under control, you will not have to resort to trying to run folks out of business.   
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2010, 12:30:11 PM »

I have known Paul for years. He offered me a job a few years back. He's not a bad guy. He is causeing problems with the parttimers. I think he is just trying to protect his buisness.I think if you guys call him and talk to him you would understand him a little better. He is not a member of the association nor does he compete. He has been around in buisness since the early 70's when I used to go into his shop. all I can say is a state license is $30.00 get one good luck. Bruce Owens
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2010, 12:38:48 PM »

A couple of questions,,,  are the part timers charging sufficient prices?   We have had an explosion of dermist registered here in nevada,   87 at last count,  and most in the northern half of the state.   They have flooded the market with CHEAP pricing actually driving DOWN the accepted "norms"...  The results have been that the established shops with the standard area pricing are HURTING, as the work stratafies out ...  Price check phone calls get a constant WOW  didnt know it was THAT expensive!?   Part timers are OK,  but the pricing MUST be close or problems WILL arise...Im living the dream....
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2010, 01:25:33 PM »

Everybody has to deal with part timers, if you really feel they are that big a problem then you are lying to yourself.  They are your solution, they keep the riff raff out of the studio.   It's America and this  in Missouri thinks the government is his solution....I hope he  with the wrong person and gets what is coming to him..... I hope he gets it good!  Maybe he will learn to give beginners the same chance he was given.


Sounds toe like a classic case of somebody being under skilled but wanting to be over paid
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2010, 03:47:47 PM »

hey Dan, positive its Paul Kantor, guys had a chip on his shoulder for as long as Ive known him. I went by his shop on my way home from college 25 yrs ago and looked around, started small talk and told him my interest of taxidermy and maybe someday opening shop in my basement. He went off on me like crazy. I laughed and told him to  and left. Once had a friend p/u a fish from him and come straight to my house, in tears he wanted to know if I could fix it, about a 19" brown. looked like a 2nd grader painted it, fins flagged straight down, 1/4 inch envirotex on it.drips dried in envirotex, told him to trash it and do a repro. he charges deer heads by small, med. lg, and ex. lg,like I said, I wouldnt hang his crap in my garage.
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