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Porter
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 16, 2010, 12:04:01 PM »
Great tip. I will add the rack on the bottom to my set up, that's a great idea.
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 17, 2010, 12:22:45 AM »
i have been wanting to get one welded with a recessed area in the bottom for the trash to fall into.regular ol drain on the side to drain out the bad that settles.naturally you would want a rack similar to what they are using to keep the birds up and in the good gas
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 17, 2010, 09:43:42 AM »
wow,a great tutorial again from my master!!!!thank u Mr Eugene,it was indeed a surprise for me finding my name in your tutorial and very useful in formations in your text.can't wait to use this applied method on my work!!
1st Q:just tell me if it's necessary to use this stage on uplands or not.because i saw all of your birds were waterfowls.
2st:I'm quite sure it's very hard to find Coleman fuel in Iran,may i use white industrial alcohol or sth similar for substitution?of coarse you told me about common car's fuel "we say benzine" but they have strong odor, you know,may i use it?and what can i do with odor?indeed i saw this word in one website :Benzine is the same as white gas
In Iran the product mentioned in first column is called NAFT second is BENZIN then there is less refined substances for diesel and heating followed by bitumen that is called GHIR. The NAFT is used for lamps as well as cooking,and in the heating stoves, different grade of Benzin for cars and airplanes.
again thank u for ur amazing tutorial.
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 17, 2010, 11:45:47 AM »
Babak, not sure about the chemicals you mentioned, but do you have laquer thinner there? if so that can be used as a substitute for white gas - you only have to leave them in for five to ten minutes with laquer thinner. As for upland birds , yes degrease them as well!
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 17, 2010, 10:47:39 PM »
I like the cooler idea, I have been using a round bucket with a hardware fabric screen in the bottom but sometimes it's just not enough space.
Thanks for the idea,
Dan
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 18, 2010, 01:17:24 AM »
Quote from: NOAH@aarrkk on October 16, 2010, 11:28:33 AM
I've also used gas in the past and allowed the gas/'gunkk' mixxture to freeze and then pour off the relatively clean gas into another container, thaw the 'gunk'/water and dispose of it.
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Lol Thats a "benefit" of Northern climates. I have had the skin also freeze" hard as a rock while submersed in gas, has to be "really" cold though. Babak I wash and gas most everything with the exception of doves if I can get away with it. The car fuel will emit odor while working with it BUT will dissipate and not leave any "smell" on the plumage when properly dried. Sea duck the cooler does work great BUT watch it as the coolers I have used "melted" if I left the gas in them for any amount of time,.... weeks. I am sure that varies depending on the manufacturer of it . Thanks for the kind words!
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 18, 2010, 04:22:35 AM »
thank u dear Eugene and Ron again,i should start to experience this method as soon as possible.I'll ask my complimentary questions after my first project.
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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October 18, 2010, 06:26:25 AM »
Quote from: wingman on October 16, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
And a couple more pics of the "gassing rack" These are older pics that show the method BUT I found out that coolers don't last very long with gas use as it "eats" away at that type plastic, distorting it until they become unusable.
How manny times can you use the liquid before it either evaporates and or has loads of extracted gunk. Is it 2 birds then replace or is it more economical than that.
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October 18, 2010, 07:52:45 AM »
Tc, you can use it many, many times If you store it in a sealed container. I've had mine for about a year now. Obviously over time you will lose some but I just add to it when necessary.
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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March 02, 2011, 11:30:10 AM »
Great tutorial, I like the wire rack idea and the more flat container seams like a better idea than a 5 gallon pail. Thanks Wingman!
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Re: "WINGTIPS" # 40 Gassing and Drying Bird Skins
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April 22, 2011, 04:31:17 PM »
I'm sure the low humidity conditions in Montana is a big help drying out the skins as opposed to living in south Louisiana with 90%
humidity most of the time ! I try to plan most of my bird work on lower humidity days.
Gwamp
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Nagyon jó módszer!Fantasztikus!
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January 21, 2012, 06:58:21 PM »
Hey wingman just a quick question on gassing. Ive got a redhead submerged right now in coleman fuel and it been in there for around 20 min but there is not anything visible that the fuel is drawing out. I thought being a really fatty bird it would show alot more. How much "gunk" do you usually see come out of a bird?
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