McKenzie rock mix

[buckfeverallyear]

Well, since your BVDs are sufficiently tucked up your asscrack,

Now I apologize if you thought I implied that you'd never "used" it.  What I was implying that if it were used as advertised, suitable results could be had FASTER than if you added Elmer's glue or by adding dextrine to the mix.  Those additions WOULD make the medium more "stickly" however, and if you want some rocks affixed to your picture window, I'm sure this is a much better way.

Something tells me if i new what BVD was i would get pissed again. lol however apologize accepted. your correct that is exactly what i was trying to say. its more sticker and will stick to any darn thing including skin. i do disagree with you on prolonging cure time i find it about the same. This is an area we can save for later to square off on. Now the important stuff. I live in flat country rock mix on the window is about as close as iam gonna get to looking out the window at mountains terrain.  LOL
George you got to admit now the window thing was  a good one. To be honest i did know for sure it would stay put when i put it there, kinda figured it would slide down with gravity. It didn't!

[George Roof]

LOL  You got me. I DO have to admit the window made the discussion rather dramatic.

[Wildside]

The POINT is that the Elmer's Glue prolongs the CURE time.  If you use plaster of Paris ON FOAM, it will CURE in less than 20 minutes.  Then if you use the rock mix, it, too, will CURE in less than 20 minutes.  Though the mix will retain moisture the "medium" is cured and you COULD give it to your customer with no worries.

What I was implying that if it were used as advertised, suitable results could be had FASTER than if you added Elmer's glue or by adding dextrine to the mix. 

George, when you use capitolization one interprets it to mean you are sure you are correct or you are being sarcastic to someone.  Coming from you it is safe to assume both.  But again, you are NOT completely correct.

Elmers glue does not affect the CURE time, but the drying time.  Plaster Cures by the addition of moisture for rehydration.  Other outside sources affect either CURE time or drying time such as heat, humidity and salt or other chemicals components.  The strength of the Cured plaster is dependent on both the rehydration and the drying process.  It would more than likely be a mistake to give something to a customer after twenty minutes, however you are right, you could.  But it has little strength and you should have worries. 

I am sure SOMEONE will disagree. 

[George Roof]

Exceptionally good point, Wildside.  Because the plaster of Paris or the Rock Mix is hard and workable, it's really not "cured".

And you see, I have to be careful when I agree with someone.  I wouldn't want BOTH of us to be wrong.

[buckfeverallyear]

Thank you . I believe that's what i was trying to say  it dries faster To the touch that is. it is 10 times more sticky. No wheres did i say any thing about cureing faster. No matter, both ways work just fine. (Mines better  it sticks to glass  LOL) I couldn't resist that George ! ha ha just funning with you a bit.

[Dennis Bragg]

I just used the rock mix to do the back of a wall pedestal form. Form back was cleaned and roughed up well. Rock mix was made with a little color and smoothed onto the back and shaped as it kicked. Left it for over an hour doing other things. Stuff is like it's part of the form, completely stuck. I used 50 grit paper to soften the edges and had no chips or anything. Read this and went out and slapped the form pretty good with my hand to see if it might jar loose, didn't do anything. Like I said it seems like it's part of the form. Got me worried now, but I think it would take a hammer to bust it off.  

[Manny]

I could get it to stick after the plaster, but really couldnt shape it. ( for smaller baseball sized rocks )

This stuff is way too coarse for small detail.
Ended up making my own mix...
along with molding and casting a rock.

I can see where this mix would be good for bigger lifesize stuff.

[Dennis Bragg]

Manny I know what your saying about it being coarse. I used a 3 " brush and water as it was setting to smooth out a bit. Worked pretty well to soften the look.

[Artie mags]

Im with George on this one.i use a watered down plaster brush on the roughed up foam.It dries almost instantly.Then I use my rock mix over that shape and paint

[Artie mags]

Im with George on this one.i use a watered down plaster brush on the roughed up foam.It dries almost instantly.Then I use my rock mix over that shape and paint