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freeze_1
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Location: Tioga County, Pa.
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my buiness manager 1489 Nauvoo Road, Morris, Pa.
SAFTEE-ACID
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January 15, 2012, 09:04:43 AM »
I ordered Rittel's Saftee-Acid from McKenzi and was informed that they no longer sell it.
The sales person handleing my order said ( if I heard her correctly, the speak so softly down there)
that Saftee acid is no longer available and that I could substitute McKinzi Ultamate Acid which is the same thing.
My question is this, isn't Bruce Rittel making saftee-acid any more and for those who have used McKinzi's Ultamate
Acid were they satisfied with the product when useing Rittel's EZ Tan.
Thanks in avance,
Freeze_1
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Steve W
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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Reply #1 on:
January 15, 2012, 10:40:36 AM »
I think this has been discussed here many times, and the conclusion was that most all of these safety acids are all the same. So yes, McKenzie acid should do just fine. Steve
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freeze_1
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Location: Tioga County, Pa.
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my buiness manager 1489 Nauvoo Road, Morris, Pa.
Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 15, 2012, 12:01:29 PM »
Thanks Steve,
I did do a search but I couldn't find any thing specific on the McKenzi Ultimate-Acid.
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pir^2h
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 15, 2012, 08:54:24 PM »
It is still available but I think the only place to get Saftee Acid now is Dan Rinehart's company TASCO. I believe he bought out Rittel a while back.
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freeze_1
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my buiness manager 1489 Nauvoo Road, Morris, Pa.
Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 15, 2012, 09:31:07 PM »
What's the deal between Dan and his dad John any way ?
They have their own companies now.
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pir^2h
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 16, 2012, 09:31:35 AM »
John Riehart sold out to McKenzie around 2002. I don't know about anything else. I think he has another son that he opened up a new taxidermy school with in Janesville.
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sergeant133
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 16, 2012, 10:41:52 AM »
I used the Saftee Acid until McKenzie stopped selling it and replaced it with the Ultimate Acid. It works the same for me and the directions are the same. Is the the same stuff...........who knows but it's the same to me.
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oldshaver
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 16, 2012, 09:10:26 PM »
Quote from: freeze_1 on January 15, 2012, 09:04:43 AM
I ordered Rittel's Saftee-Acid from McKenzi and was informed that they no longer sell it.
The sales person handleing my order said ( if I heard her correctly, the speak so softly down there)
that Saftee acid is no longer available and that I could substitute McKinzi Ultamate Acid which is the same thing.
My question is this, isn't Bruce Rittel making saftee-acid any more and for those who have used McKinzi's Ultamate
Acid were they satisfied with the product when useing Rittel's EZ Tan.
As far as I know, Mr. Rittel NEVER made saftee acid.
All those acid substitute products are some of the WORST products to ever hit the Taxidermy Industry! In my opinion, they all just plain SUCK!
From its in-stabillity, to their POOR pickling performance, they all provide a less than desirable tanning experiennce for the home tanner! It shaves like 5hit, and will have a negative effect on stretch when it comes to a finished product. Not to mention its difficulty to neutralise.
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 16, 2012, 09:26:55 PM »
Maybe that's why I'm having trouble shaving capes?
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sergeant133
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Location: Robinson Illinois
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 18, 2012, 09:58:32 PM »
So if I'm reading "Oldshaver'" post right he says Rittel never made Saftee Acid? If that's the case why was it marketed as "Rittel's Saftee Acid"? Even on the EZ100 tanning kit instructions it even says "Rittel's Saftee Acid". When I used it is said "Rittel's Saftee Acid" on the bottle. I switched to Ultimate Acid when McKenzie quit carrying it or so they say. I still say its the same thing with a different label. It acts exactly the same when it comes the stability, shaving, etc. Personally I don't see the difference. Where's Mr. Rittel he could put this to rest!
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Steve W
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January 19, 2012, 07:58:28 AM »
I'm guessing Rittel did the same thing McKenzie did, bought the acid from a chemical supplier and put their own label on it? Most all products that these suppliers sell are manufactured by independent companies
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January 20, 2012, 05:52:39 PM »
I did not make Saftee Acid. I did however test it and determine it was great to use for tanning - and obviously I marketed and Sold it, after repackaging and relabeling it as RITTELS Saftee Acid. I even went so far as to Trademark it. However, TASCO now owns the Trademark and it was part of the sale of my business in 2007.
I do not know what McKenzie or other Suppliers sell. I dont know their Suppliers, so I would guess its not the same - but it could be, or maybe even similiar.
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freeze_1
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 21, 2012, 09:23:18 PM »
Quote from: Bruce Rittel on January 20, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
I did not make Saftee Acid. I did however test it and determine it was great to use for tanning - and obviously I marketed and Sold it, after repackaging and relabeling it as RITTELS Saftee Acid. I even went so far as to Trademark it. However, TASCO now owns the Trademark and it was part of the sale of my business in 2007.
I do not know what McKenzie or other Suppliers sell. I dont know their Suppliers, so I would guess its not the same - but it could be, or maybe even similiar.
Well now, that should clear things up.
Thanks Bruce
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Pinebear
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 22, 2012, 06:41:33 AM »
So what's better than No Harm pickling acid? I guess citric acid is the way to go then? How can one tell if a skin is properly neutralized?
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freeze_1
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Re: SAFTEE-ACID
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January 22, 2012, 09:59:45 AM »
Quote from: Pinebear on January 22, 2012, 06:41:33 AM
So what's better than No Harm pickling acid? I guess citric acid is the way to go then? How can one tell if a skin is properly neutralized?
Pinebear, if you check in the search under neutralizing there is a good bit of info there.
You should find the answer to your question in reference to the type of acid and tanning agent
you are using.
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