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« on: January 21, 2012, 12:46:30 PM »

 hello,to all

i am starting out on fish taxidermy i am trying the book learning way...so i got all the breakthrough manuale's except the paint sceem one....
i have read them from cover to cover..now i am asking if you guys and gals are out ther to help me go through this lesson. Embarrassed Embarrassed
i am trying not to imbariss my self or the art..i have attempted the first..ect stage with my books....so i am asking for a little guidance to get me futher as of finishing ,painting,ect if you can help me go through without ant further mistakes..i am doing it the right way i hope by not cutting any corner's as i see it i think i am as far as i can get  on my own.so i am asking for help Embarrassed Embarrassed

 i have add'd a few pic's of the stage i am at please feel free to judge it or suggest ,or down me for what's wrong am
nd right any thing will be greatfull.thank's for all that can and can't.......
thank you
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 01:51:50 PM »

The head is pushed back and down too far, the gill plate doesn't cover the fin, the anal fin is flagged meaning the side along the body should be closer to the body, same with pelvic fins, the tail juncture is off, it looks like you have a form with tail down but positioned the tail up. The head and tail can be fixed by cutting them of but it will be a bunch of apoxie work to blend or you could try and rehydrate those areas. The scale loss happens sometimes, fixable, but just try to be a little more gentle in the future. Keep at they should get better, 3bears
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 02:19:57 PM »

 Grin Grin    now were talking...thanks 3bears,,,,keep it coming

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 03:37:37 PM »

Looks like you lost a few scales
Use a little care skinning
The mouth looks a bit wide
We have all been there
Keep at it
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 05:16:06 PM »

thnks for the comment...... Grin Grin i am going to put a b-gill in the mouth,,,,but i assume now... that aint no excuse

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 05:41:31 PM »

Here's a tip...do not buy anybodys fish painting manuals.....if the fish is from your area...get a picture of a fish from your area....Bass from many states do not look the same...watch a rick krane video....paint what you see...not what everybody else see's
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 06:57:37 PM »

Here's a tip...do not buy anybodys fish painting manuals.....if the fish is from your area...get a picture of a fish from your area....Bass from many states do not look the same...watch a rick krane video....paint what you see...not what everybody else see's

good point......(if i see a car with a red dragon on it i would not wont the same dragon.!!! )  correct..
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 08:39:18 PM »

hello,to all

i am starting out on fish taxidermy i am trying the book learning way...so i got all the breakthrough manuale's except the paint sceem one....
i have read them from cover to cover..now i am asking if you guys and gals are out ther to help me go through this lesson. Embarrassed Embarrassed
i am trying not to imbariss my self or the art..i have attempted the first..ect stage with my books....so i am asking for a little guidance to get me futher as of finishing ,painting,ect if you can help me go through without ant further mistakes..i am doing it the right way i hope by not cutting any corner's as i see it i think i am as far as i can get  on my own.so i am asking for help Embarrassed Embarrassed

 i have add'd a few pic's of the stage i am at please feel free to judge it or suggest ,or down me for what's wrong am
nd right any thing will be greatfull.thank's for all that can and can't.......
thank you
little freddy




Mouth to wide,, head should have been up nice smooth transitionalong the top of back to the  secondary mandible. the lip on bass can roll up to help funnel food in.
You do have a nice line from the pelvic fins to the lower lip, once this is filled with epoxy it will look a whole lot better.

Your back side symetry is abit large, looks like you needed to rasp some off the back side. rememberalways carve to the round. This throws the spiney dorsal off.

Anywhere on the body there is a fin there is also a change in body conture. You needed to have fin pockets for the pelvic fins, the trailing edge of the pelvic fins should be up against the body or close the leading edge can drop. remember these are steering fins!!

The soft doral and anal fin should be at the same angles on the leading and trailing edge. trailing edge should be almost against the body.

Againd for those fins you need a pocket of sorts forming off the trailing edge.

The body is to large in the caudal peduncle area. and it appears you did not get the mea or cartildige out of the area directly infront of the tail rays.

I always like to have the upper and lower edge of the tail to be at almost the same angles as the anal and soft dorsal fins.

Keep a water bottle handy and keep your fins wet while skinning and until you are carding them to dry.

The paint sceduchles will get you started and darn sure one of them explains the hows and whys of the pearls and metallic paints., its worth that info alone.

My bet is you use the diem fishi skinning knife, by all the scales knocked out?Huh?? Try a grapefruit knife from walmart. and dont get in a rush.

Also make a T cut at the tail along the edge where the scales stop and the tail starts, to help you get the meat out,and with a sharp pair is siccors, at a angle perpendicutal to the table clips the fin rays.

Also you might want to skin on formica or even a glass tops, this will let you turn the fish without lifting it ftom the table as much as I think you did.


Now use a clothig iro to iron the scales down on your dried fish, does not have to be hot hot, about mid range is fine. if you have a scale that will not lay down, just put a bit of super glue under the already ironed down scale with a pin point and touch it again with the iron. Instant smooth scales!

Modle the missing ones in with Apoxie scuplt, keep a bitof the mixed off to the side and when you can mark it with a sharp pencil and it accepts the indentation draw the rest of the scales inot the missing, apoxie sculpted area..

Whenyou get ready to paint, paint with as little color as you can. maybe even make your paints (opaque colors) semit trans parent but mixing 50/50 with clear gloss.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 08:54:07 PM »

wow....you guy's are better then the book    lol

thanks john
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 05:51:42 PM »

watch a rick krane video....?
where do ya get those for bass?Huh

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 06:28:48 PM »

from WASCO supply company...have many rick krane painting videos
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 11:37:02 PM »

from WASCO supply company...have many rick krane painting videos

thanx grab daddy
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 04:07:37 AM »

x2 on the Rick Krane DVD, even if not the species you are wanting, you will learn something that is applicable to most fish.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 08:29:09 AM »

I bought Rick Kranes's DVD on painting Largemouth Bass. It is definitely worth the money!!! I am brand new to fish taxidermy and he explains everything in such detail and demonstrates everything. He even goes into detail about the products he uses. I have watched it at least 6 times and I still learn something new each time I watch it. It is a purchase that you will not regret! Much better than any book!!!
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 09:50:26 AM »

bought my rick krane vids direct from him and he was ultra helpfull with questions..... top knotch imo.
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