hair slippage

[cook taxidermy]

ive been told that if you cant get spot rot you can use a couple cap fulls of clear lysol has anybody ever done it this way? thanks~Cook

[mr.T aka mr. friendly]

What is the Lysol going to do?

[cook taxidermy]

Mr T ive heard that it kills and stops the bacteria growth this is just what ive heard thanks~Cook

[mr.T aka mr. friendly]

A mix of rubbing alcohol and denatured alcohol drenched on will work better than Lysol. A bleach water bath will kill bacteria too. But nothing is better than Stop Rot.

[3bears]

Correct me if I am wrong, but won't the Lysol mess with the pH in the pickle? Maybe causing more widespread problems.

[Shannon Tobey]

I too have learned from other posts of people who use brown bottle lysol to stop bateria..I can't remember who it was but they said to use it in something like a rehydration bath and someother thiongs I think. I haven't done that yet, but I was under the impression it would be fine. ?

[cyclone]

Before you spread any more mis-informfation..
All you need to know about Lysol in the pickle....read on gentlemen..


http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,242186.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,232009.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,32223.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,199258.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,194911.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,177306.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,71982.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,73225.0.html

[Shannon Tobey]

Before you spread any more mis-informfation..
All you need to know about Lysol in the pickle....read on gentlemen..


http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,242186.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,232009.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,32223.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,199258.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,194911.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,177306.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,71982.0.html

http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,73225.0.html

Noonw is trying to spread mis information...just reying to clear up what we've read before

[Shannon Tobey]

sorry...trying**

[cyclone]

So what have you learned from all of that research?

[Shannon Tobey]

What I'm saying is that obviously what I/ we had read and researched was not a good tactic. But it is not OUR intentions to purposely spread mis leading information. I am glad to learn new things everyday..as you have done for me today! I was going to buy a bottle of lysol to use as a bactericide but I def. will not do so now that I know the consequences of messing with the Ph levels and causing slip. I do have another question though, even though it does not totally relate to this. Would you recommend putting some type of bactericide in a relaxer bath?

[cyclone]

What I'm saying is that obviously what I/ we had read and researched was not a good tactic. But it is not OUR intentions to purposely spread mis leading information. I am glad to learn new things everyday..as you have done for me today! I was going to buy a bottle of lysol to use as a bactericide but I def. will not do so now that I know the consequences of messing with the Ph levels and causing slip. I do have another question though, even though it does not totally relate to this. Would you recommend putting some type of bactericide in a relaxer bath?

Doesn't hurt if you use a suitable one...but in most cases it is a waste of money..

[cyclone]

Correct me if I am wrong, but won't the Lysol mess with the pH in the pickle? Maybe causing more widespread problems.

You are correct..

[3bears]

Thank you cyclone for stepping in. I remembered reading about it before but couldn't remember where. 3bears

[George Roof]

I should have figured the "Lysol" would be making the rounds as I just saw a bit about using antifreeze to tan a snake skin this morning..

Shannon, I'm sorry, but repeating bad information makes it MISinformation.  Beginners need to understand that they've been saturated with this type hogwash for years and when they actually begin, they tend to gravitate to this horsespit. The real point is that if you NEED a bacteriacide for your hides, you've already been screwing the pooch before you began.  Slippage is caused by bacteria UNDER THE EPIDERMIS causing it and the hair it contains to slough off the skin. Bad field care is  usually the first step to achieving it. Then comes prolonged handling by the guy working on the hide prior to salting/pickling/tanning/dry preserving/whatever.  NOTHING WILL STOP A HIDE FROM SLIPPING ONCE IT BEGINS.  Stop Rot will prevent the bacteria from gaining a foothold to make a hide slip. And not least importantly comes the pH.  That has a significant impact on slippage.  You do realize that a pH higher than 7.5 (up to a 12.0) is what is used to intentionally remove hair and create rawhide and buckskin,don't you?  If you wash your hides in a strong soap (high pH) before you salt it or pickle it, you're inviting it to become buckskin. Stop Rot may be a bit pricey to some of you, but you'll soon learn that it's worth its weight in gold if you dawdle or tarry while you're processing a hide. Buy some.