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« on: January 27, 2012, 09:05:03 PM »

Just like all of you guys, I lay awake at night trying to think of better ways to degrease.  There's not much that hasn't been tried.  It's kind of ironic, my wife has been battling with a very similar issue with clothes washing.  She wants to use "natural" and less expensive forms of deteregent to wash our clothes.  So she's tried all sorts of stuff, some of it the same stuff i've tried in my skull cleaning process (including soda ash).  SOmetimes we sit and discuss our similar problems.  And she said, "you need to agitate that water to pull the grease out".  I've read about folks using bubblers, but overall it seems that the jury is still out amongst most folks on here as to whether it really makes much difference.  So, i thought more about what she said and heck, i guess if a skull wouldn't tear up, i could put it in the washing machine! that's what it is made for - pulling grease out.  Anyway....

So, i got the bubblers going for first time a few days ago.  Ran an an air stone down in to each bucket and the bubbles were out of control the next day.  So, i took the air stone off and just weighted the clear tubing down so it would stay on bottom of bucket.  the bubbles are much bigger, so they pop rather than climb 10 ft out of the degrease tank.  so far so good.  the first morning i looked in the buckets and there were some bubbles maybe 6 inches off top of each bucket and they appeared to have grease in them.  also, on the antlers where the bubbles came up to, there was caked on grease - I THINK.  I rubbed it between the fingers and it sure felt like grease.  wouldn't be soap would it?  If it is fat, then this method has got to be working.  i looked down in the bucket and it was relatively clear - possibly because a lot of the grease is being pushed out of the skull and moved toward the surface with the bubbles and then it hardens when it gets above the surface.  Does this sound right to you guys?  If so, I can't imagine someone NOT using bubblers.  The next day, there was less of what i presume is fat around the antlers.  I'm only on day 3......   

One drawback.  My tank is a deep freezer and i keep the lid cracked to keep moisture out so the antlers won't mold.  but now even with lid cracked, the bubbles that gather around the antlers hold mositure on the antlers and i have mold going again.  AAGGGHHH.  i'll figure something out. 

Would really appreciate any input you guys have regarding this technique.  Thanks.

Oh, i use a good squirt of dawn, water, and keep it at 120 deg. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 10:46:33 PM »

this is where dishwasher soaps like calgon would be great since they do not foam. but I don't know what calgon has in it chemical wise. may harm bone
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 06:35:29 AM »

Calgon will definitely harm bone. It will even fog glassware and remove the screened images off coffee mugs and such in the dishwasher. Pretty much ANY dishwasher detergent will damage bone. There is some nasty stuff in there.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 10:49:25 AM »

Sodium Hydroxide and Sodium Carbonate and such in the dishwashing detergents.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 05:08:22 PM »

As for the clothes in the washer, it's not the movement of water that frees the dirt but the bending and twisting of the material in the water that loosens the grime. Not saying to take your skulls down to the stream and beat them on a rock ... but keeping the water moving will bring fresher detergent water into areas where there is grease being picked up by the solution. Instead of a bubbler, I have used an underwater pump to keep the water circulating. No bubbles, little or no foam but I can't say that I have seen any remarkable difference.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 10:26:16 PM »

Hey Sea Wolf, i tell ya what we need.  Do you remember back in chemistry classes that magnetic plate you could put a beaker on with that little short rod you put in the bottom and then you turn it on and it spins like crazy.  that's what we need to create current in the degreasing buckets!  Ok, i think i've over-thought this problem.....
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 09:48:02 AM »

Yep. The stirrer doo dad. Have to make a real big one for 5 gallon buckets.
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