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JE
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Plumping up fish
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February 06, 2012, 01:42:40 PM »
I have had limited success in "plumping" up fish just by simply injecting under the skin with water, but was wondering what anyone else does ? I should make it clear that I am NOT talking about the stomach area, that is an easy fix with calk, I am talking about muscle "shrinkage" after prolonged freezer life. I have just taken a small Rainbow out of the freezer and it has quite a few skin wrinkles on its sides, plus a rather big "dent" on its back ! (not frozen by myself I should add)
any ideas welcome !
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John
On a side note, its great to see so many new and not so "new" people in the fish section
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Randy Miller
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 06, 2012, 05:54:58 PM »
why are you plumping it?
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CrabCrazy
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he probably wants the dents and dings removed to mold it
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den007
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February 06, 2012, 06:55:09 PM »
Dents and dings removed......let's hope that is all he wants to plump up. LOL
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CrabCrazy
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 06, 2012, 07:33:41 PM »
sorry Dennis, sounds like i was talking about a car...how about depressions in soft bodied fish
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JE
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 07, 2012, 02:14:58 AM »
Quote from: CrabCrazy on February 06, 2012, 06:06:54 PM
he probably wants the dents and dings removed to mold it
Yep, forgot to mention the important molding part !
any suggestions welcome. I have a "crinkly" trout on hold. LOL
John
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rp
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 07, 2012, 03:07:17 AM »
would also like to know as I also struggle with trout
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Monty Artrip
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February 07, 2012, 07:49:15 AM »
This tip should help you. Bill Leach of Caribou Taxidermy shared this with me for restoring the fullness as you are describing for heads prior to molding. It works equally will on the whole fish. Make an icewater bath in a foam cooler and submerge the fish in it. If you have an old fridge put the cooler in it and leave it for about 36-48 hours. Hope this is what you are after.
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JE
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February 07, 2012, 08:07:06 AM »
Thanks Monty, I shall certainly try it.
John
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GBRUCH
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 07, 2012, 08:30:19 AM »
good luck.
An ice bath helps somewhat but as soon as you manipulate the skin your back to ...now what. I have never had success with Trout with excessive wrinkles. Sure you can do a reverse bend that stretches the skin and get a one sided cast but the other side is a real problem.
Just had one of those and informed the client that a skin mount would be the optimal way to go.
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JE
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Quote from: GBRUCH on February 07, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
good luck.
An ice bath helps somewhat but as soon as you manipulate the skin your back to ...now what. I have never had success with Trout with excessive wrinkles. Sure you can do a reverse bend that stretches the skin and get a one sided cast but the other side is a real problem.
Just had one of those and informed the client that a skin mount would be the optimal way to go.
That is exactly what my trout is like Gary, as you say I can do a reverse curve, but the other side looks like s*&t ! I like doing pedestal mounts sooo, I had thought of removing the dorsal fin, then part the skin from the flesh down the sides and inject caulk or ???ing to try and stretch the skin back to its former glory. any thoughts on this idea ?
This is not a clients fish,so experimenting is OK.
John
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Old Fart
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 07, 2012, 11:24:30 AM »
I don't know if this will help or not. Years ago when Vik Birontas was prepping fish for freeze dry, he would inject Elmer's glue into the shrunken areas on fish to "plump" them up.
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Riverland
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February 07, 2012, 12:14:10 PM »
If you are going to use Victor's technique you need to be cussing wihile doing it for it to work . He did it on fishh that were to be freezedryed . All his fish blanks were molded off of mounted freezedryed fish.
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Cecil
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February 07, 2012, 12:24:58 PM »
You could contact a mortician in your area. I was told they have something they inject to build up tissue and hold it there for the viewing of badly damaged corpses. I seem to remember someone was using it in molding.
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AnglingArtisan
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Re: Plumping up fish
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February 07, 2012, 01:11:15 PM »
Try some BOTOX!
Seriously though I am interested in a solution to this problem as well
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