hide paste

[Laurier]

guys and gals save your self a lot of money, go to Wal-Mart in the hardware department , to the caulking area ,

This is what you get , DAP caulking ,clear or translucent , the exact some thing as your buckeye supreme, just a latex caulking (glue) that is white in colour and dries clear.

It will cost you less then half price and is easy to apply , just use a caulking gun.

[taxidermistwife]

Yep we just started using the same thing and you are right save a lot of money and works just as good all you are doing is paying for the name of the other stuff.

[cyclone]

guys and gals save your self a lot of money, go to Wal-Mart in the hardware department , to the caulking area ,

This is what you get , DAP caulking ,clear or translucent , the exact some thing as your buckeye supreme, just a latex caulking (glue) that is white in colour and dries clear.

It will cost you less then half price and is easy to apply , just use a caulking gun.

I don't think so....

Although calk has it's uses for me...there is no way it has the same holding properties as Buckeye.  However,  It's probably better than the dextrine that they're hashing about on the other thread..

[Laurier]

Cyclone , I've used doth and they are the same thing , LATEX CAULKING.\\

how much experience do you have with caulkings , silicone's , because I have a lot of experience.

[cyclone]

I'm sure that they contain some of the same ingredients..

Caulk is formulated to fill gaps and seal out water and wind.

Hide paste is formulated to hold hides to forms.  I used latex caulk for hide paste back in "the day". Used it for filling voids, pumping toes and gluing bird skins..

Yes, even tried it on deer back then..it may have worked OK....but Buckeye Supreme it aint....

[The Brooklyn Kid]

Cyclone, have you ever used a dextrine based adhesive?

[cyclone]

I'm sure I probably have back when Elwood was selling paper forms...

[The Brooklyn Kid]

Like I said before, if you use it properly, it is very useful.  Buckeye is a good hide paste.  It's a little over priced in my opinion.  If you like Buckeye, use Buckeye.  Everyone has different things they like to use.

[John C]

EPO GRIP hide adhesive 2 part for me. Why do I want to waste time? It takes time to reajust the hide for several days while waiting for the water based stuff to setup.

Save yourself some money i.e. time.

Then if you must use latex caulk why not buy it in bulk? Save more money up front by the case. At your local owned ACE or TRUE VALUE!!!

Dextrine works great also just takes knowledge, something plug and play taxidermist are trying to avoid.

[George Roof]

Laurier, it's nothing like Buckeye Supreme.  Buckeye does NOT dry translucent or clear.

[Crittercoroner]

George, I hate like hell to agree with you but you're right on this one. If it doesn't say it's Buckeye on the container then it aint. Neither is Liquid Nails' product called FRP, it's white and that's about where the similarities stop. Surestick 111 from Gibson Hommans works pretty good, better than FRP, but that aint Buckeye either. God I miss the original formula for DERMAGRIP. Now there was a great glue, until they started screwing around with the viscosity and added mold killers.

[Laurier]

now I DO NOT WANT TO START ANUTHING HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it just possible that a company manufactures caulking ,then sells it to a distributer or supplier.

Then they put their own name on it and re-sell it.

All buckeye hide paste is ( acrylic latex  caulking )

Buy a tube of fin backing cream remove the label and see what it ( white lightning )


now white lightning is only a name brand , same as Dap , Tremco , Tremseal, home , hardware , home depot .brands

Do not get me wrong , not all silicone's , or caulking , is the same , tremco , tremseal for silicone will cost you around $10.00 a tube , and you can get silicone or caulking , for much less.
Better product cost more in this case.

Now I got some buckeye supreme from a friend of mine that had a supply company in Ontario , so I sent some of it to
a technition , that sells me foam , and so on . They tested it , and they told me it is just latex glue , some as it a caulking tube.
Dap manufactures latex caulking same as many other companies.

ONLY MY OPINION

[cyclone]

Glad that  it is only your opinion....

and I'd like to know what kind of tests a supply co. would do for you...Probably just the old "olfactory test"...

[mr.T aka mr. friendly]

So if I am caulking around my sink and run out, I can use buckeye hide paste???
Laurier, if you stuck you finger in each and tasted it, you would see a difference and they are not the same.

[Old Fart]

It isn't even CLOSE! The original Buckeye hide paste came from the construction industry and was a sub-flooring adhesive. I used to be in the building supply business and we sold it.  That was all I used for hide paste, when I eventually heard about Buckeye and tried their product, I noticed the "similarities" so I asked them about it.  No one would actually confirm it, but they were pretty much speechless when I told them the H.B.Fuller product number! That original product is no longer produced in that exact form, due to environmental concerns about formaldehyde and a couple other of the ingredients. I've moved on to Epo-Grip adhesives myself, but I can still get the sub-flooring  adhesives through a friend who's still in the business.  If you must buy the adhesives locally then use a good construction adhesive or even carpet adhesive.....NOT caulking.  While caulking may have many of the same ingredients as the adhesives it also has something else, a LOT of inert fillers that bulk it up and decrease it's adhesive qualities and density.  Caulking has it's place in taxidermy and is great in those areas, a hide paste for game heads it is NOT!