Mt. Goat whitening

[fishslayer13]

Jim I think you are talking about Bleaching after tanning. Abbytaxi is trying to bleach during the tanning process. Knoblochs have a paint on and a submerse bleach. Cant tell you about the fur bleach paint on----never tried that. If you used the submerse type with a tanned skin than you soaked the tan right out of it. If I were doing a mounted or tanned piece than I would defiantly use a paint on bleach. But after using it during the tanning process I dont own any other type of bleach as I have  no need for it.

[James Marsico]

Jim I think you are talking about Bleaching after tanning. Abbytaxi is trying to bleach during the tanning process. Knoblochs have a paint on and a submerse bleach. Cant tell you about the fur bleach paint on----never tried that. If you used the submerse type with a tanned skin than you soaked the tan right out of it. If I were doing a mounted or tanned piece than I would defiantly use a paint on bleach. But after using it during the tanning process I dont own any other type of bleach as I have  no need for it.

You are correct. Just trying to be of help.

[chief]

what is instant neutralizer? does it have another name? If I use basic white and peroxide, is it a must, or will water -shampoo- conditioner- rinse do the trick? 

[James Marsico]

what is instant neutralizer? does it have another name? If I use basic white and peroxide, is it a must, or will water -shampoo- conditioner- rinse do the trick? 

NO, it is sold as instant neutralizing lotion or cream under several brands and you you can buy it a beauty SUPPLY business. You MUST not and  CAN NOT leave this step out for soft hair and good results. It is VITAL or you will have a burnt, brittle haired result. 

[Rush]

I do about 50 sheep hides a week (domestic) and have never had a problem with slippage or singed hair or wool. If done right and fallow instructions nothing can compare to this bleach.  It doesn't require all these unnecessary steps ( shampoo, conditioner, instant neutralizer, towel dry, air dry) all these steps require time and time is money.  With this bleach you pickle the hide put in the bleach, put back in pickle and tan, no degreaser is really required, you can, but not nessary because the bleach does that too.  I really like the stuff but I guess we all use what has worked for us.  If it isn't broke, don't fix it

[James Marsico]

Wild mountain goats and Dall sheep capes and skins is what I am talking and worth thousands of dollars EACH and usually  not replacable  or they are very difficult to replace. Domestic dime a dozen hides they are not and worth the extra steps and money to do a professional job on they are.

[Rush]

This bleach works great on mountain and Dall sheep also, I have used it on MANY mountain and Dall sheep, and everyones hide is worth thousads of $$ to them, Ive seen many mountain goat hides that I wouldn't use for a toilet seat cover, but they want it back, so I tan it the BEST  and fastest way possible so they get their hide back as soon  as possible.They could give a crap what bleach we use, just as long as it looks GREAT!!

[abbytaxi]

I've worked on goats before and Dalls, polar bears for that matter too. (use to work at a tannery)  We put peroxide into the soak, and the pickle but I was never privy to the amount we were using.  I have since called my former Boss and he told me to try the knoblochs fur bleach as the peroxide can easily ruin the hair, so for this goat that's what I'll do, although I'm gonna test it on something else first obviously.  I'm gonna try George's method as well on some spare pieces.  I have done Jim's method on a Polar bear and it worked out ok.  but this was a really yellow and orange bear that had been marinated in its own fat by the hunter.  I do like the idea of having something that works during the pickling process so I'm curious to try the knobloch's stuff.
Rush, when you say "this Bleach" are you refering to the knoblochs stuff?
thanks again for the info

[Rush]

Yes, Knoblochs fur bleach.