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Title: "WINGTIP" # 37 Skinning wings another method
Post by: wingman on January 26, 2007, 01:32:46 AM
Here's a few pics of a method several people inquired about on another posting. Instead of stripping the secondaries off the bone and inverting OR making a incision under the wing here's another way. Work the skin down to the elbow remove the meat, then ''open up'' the area around the secondaries BUT do not strip the secondaries loose, cut the base of the tendons free from the elbow area and grab and pull the tendon toward the wingtip. Borax will give needed ''traction''. After you pull the tendons and meat away the next step is to scrape the remaining flesh and fat out between the bones with a modeling tool kinda like scraping fish cheeks clean, The following pics explain it visually, GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Jan George on January 26, 2007, 04:20:47 AM
I use this method also.  It's much better than detaching the secondaries.  Even an experienced taxidermist who knows where to put the secondaries back in place (if they are detached) can't always make them stay there!
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Fishcrzy on January 26, 2007, 05:01:05 AM
Wingman, that's how I envisoined it.  I have to to skin out tommorrow.  I'm gonna give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Adam on January 26, 2007, 10:50:50 AM
I am assuming this works on small birds as well, just need to be patient and careful??  I am definitely going to try this.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: KAT on January 26, 2007, 11:08:12 AM
that's the method I use, takes alittle longer but it's worth it.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Cuts75 on January 26, 2007, 06:17:09 PM
That's the way I've been doing it since 1999. Will that method work on a Goose? I think ther's some meat up past the wrist also. Will be doing my first Canada goose soon. Just need to make what would be the best way to get her done right. Not to sure about the size of rod if I go flying mount. I only see the heavy stuff in the black annealed wire. Pat, California
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Matt on January 26, 2007, 09:22:44 PM
Great post wingman, thank you for sharing. I have always detatched the secondaries, but I think I will try that method.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Fishcrzy on January 27, 2007, 02:22:44 AM
As geese go I think it would if you were careful.  For commercial work I usually embalm that wrist area in a goose though.  There's enough meat to stink for a bit but not enough you that you cant inject it effeciently.  JMO
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: birdgirl on January 27, 2007, 10:06:50 AM
I always make incisions on the wrists of geese, if not they will rot and have odors and be prime hot spots for bug infestations later on.Depending on how it is to be mounted, I will do it on the inside of the wing for standing birds and the outer edge on wings of locked up landing geese.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: George Roof on January 27, 2007, 10:52:39 AM
I don't remember not having this method as an option.  The only difference to me was whether the bird was flying or setting.  A flying bird makes this a necessity so that the primaries are held in place.  For a standing or setting bird, I simply turn the wing out, fill the void between the bones with clay and then pose. This allows stacking the primaries for appearance.  For the fliers on the bigger birds, I make an incisidon under that last segment and remove that sliver of meat, fill it with DP, and resew it.  On smaller birds, they get 4in1 from Touchstone or PreservzIt from Rittel.

What I like about this method more than functionality, is the fact that I can run my wing wire and tie it down to the bones.  When I get to the end, I can tie and tape it with electrical tape.  This allows me to turn and twist a wing for some specialty pose as in buffleheads pitching into decoys.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Hook N Stuff on February 01, 2007, 12:09:04 PM
Thanks for the info on the wings, Ive always stripped them but I will give this a try. Ralph
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: BeckyBird on February 01, 2007, 08:11:00 PM
I tried this last night, and it WORKED!! I have always stripped the secondaries, or made a lousy incision. I have played around with this skinning idea before, but it never really worked for me. Thanks for posting pictures and giving instruction, and I am going to skin my wings out this way every time.

On large wings, I do make an incision on the wingtip, then dry preserve it. Just zap-a-gap the flap of skin back, and it's ready to go.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: tas on February 02, 2007, 08:53:03 PM
I was showed this method back in 1982 by Ralph Ward of Oklahoma.
It is easy and the best way to tie your wire.
TAS.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: wingman on April 26, 2007, 12:11:05 AM
Here's the old post Josh, Hope it helps, wingman
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Snow Gooser on April 26, 2007, 04:45:49 AM
Thanks, again wingman. I am some what new to this. (19 geese) & (8 ducks). This tip is better then asprin. It won't help me right at the moment with the 3 snows that are drying. It'll save me from the headaches in the future.
                                                                                                                 Darwin
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Rick RR GBirds on April 26, 2007, 02:39:55 PM
You just don't find these good tips in the ol' "how to manuels"...It seem like everything written about taxidermy that is in print or video is from the mullet days.  So many little things left out...Thanks for sharing Wingman!
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Killn Time on April 26, 2007, 05:38:08 PM
Thanks Wingman for your very unselfish, valuable, information. I'm just a hobbyist that would like to turn out the best work that I am able and your tips are invaluable for me. Please keep them coming. Thanks again Dave
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Pumacat on April 27, 2007, 11:34:22 PM
Appriciate the tips Wingman:) Look for ward to trying this technique on my next bird.
Title: Re: Skinning wings another method
Post by: Derrin on May 10, 2007, 02:13:30 PM
I tried this method this morning on a turkey. I was surprised that I got all the way to the wrist. I applied a lot of sawdust, and kept pulling with forceps. Turned out neat. I suspended the wing from the ceiling,(tying the knob to a hook in the ceiling), and worked my way down.
Title: Re: "WINGTIP" # 37 Skinning wings another method
Post by: Gwamp from the Swamp on April 22, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
I use this method for most of my sitting/standing birds. makes positioning the and grooming much easier.
Title: Re: "WINGTIP" # 37 Skinning wings another method
Post by: DirtyBirdTaxidermy on January 22, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
How do you secure your wire to that section? And do you still rebuild the muscle u took out?
Title: Re: "WINGTIP" # 37 Skinning wings another method
Post by: Gwamp from the Swamp on February 01, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
I use a short piece of wire secured to the humorous with string or tyewrap and run it through the body as with a flying mount. you can use some polly fill or cotton batting to replace some of the muscle. The wire gives you a little more control on wing position