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Title: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 03, 2008, 07:29:38 PM
I did a short video of molding and casting a fish. I hope to do a more detailed video from start to finish with narrations.

http://hawaiiangamefish.bizland.com/id10.html (http://hawaiiangamefish.bizland.com/id10.html)

Aloha
Layne
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Post by: Aaron Stehling on February 03, 2008, 08:00:35 PM
Neat !! Well done !
I like the intro flash   ;)
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 03, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
Thanks so much Aaron!

Been admiring your repros work and the amount of work you have been getting! Weather here in Hawaii is horrendous and stormy! Business is slow and Im hoping it picks up soon so I can get back to my passion of fiberglassing and painting fish!

Aloha
Layne
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Post by: Travis on February 03, 2008, 10:57:42 PM
Very cool!!!!! Thanks for sharing Layne!!!!
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Post by: Jknuth on February 03, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
This IS very cool.

Thanks a bunch Layne!!
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Post by: ccook63 on February 03, 2008, 11:12:50 PM
That was very cool!!!! thank's
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Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 03, 2008, 11:56:51 PM
Thank you for the nice replies!
That footage was taken many years ago and I only got to edit it today. The weather here in Hilo is horrendous raining and storming and the only thing to do was sit by the computer and edit video.

So now everyone knows how cave man like I mold fish. I usually use my 9 foot sandbox but this one was posed straight so i did it right on my work table.

Aloha,looking for the sun to shine!
Layne
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Post by: Jknuth on February 04, 2008, 12:08:41 AM
Its cool Because when I saw the stills of you making a mold I always thought the Molding Material was Silicone, because of the Blue.
But when I showed my wife she said "Maybe it is bondo, remember the blue hardener we used in school"
 :)
Now the Mystery is solved ;D
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
Josh

Yes it is bondo! I use the lightweight stuff that comes with the blue paste.
As for silicone, I use both dragonskin and rebound 25 by smooth on.

Aloha
Layne
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Post by: Rick Krane on February 04, 2008, 12:21:42 AM
Layne!!!!

I have to say t you my friend Bravo!!!! This is a gift of your wonderful talents you share with all of us!!! Man I love it when some one cool does some thing cool for all of to see and say WOW thats COOL!

My Brother you are a gifted and a most generous gentleman!
Thank you so much!!!
Your friend
Rick Krane
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 04:32:26 AM
Brother Rick

Thank you for the very kind coments!
Video has become one of my passions and I invested in a small fortune on a pro camcorder and some editing programs.

I hope to contribute a little of what i know and what I am doing out here in Hawaii.

I have been filming a lot of stuff of my father in law and his fishing the old Hawaiian way with a bamboo pole.

As for myself, I prefer fishing with the updated graphite poles and reels! I hope to film a few shore fishing for giant trevally known here as the ulua. we use a slide bati technique.

I sure wish the weather would let up here in Hawaii. It is cold and rainy and my workshop in flooded from the rains. I miss fishing and making fish!

Will be sure to share more !
Aloha
Layne
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Post by: Dondi on February 04, 2008, 05:44:04 AM
Good Work Layne !
Thanks for sharing !
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Post by: Don Houser on February 04, 2008, 06:38:58 AM
Layne,
Great video! I am new to molding & casting. What is the fish first laying on that you washed off? Is it borax?

Thank You,
Don
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Post by: GBRUCH on February 04, 2008, 08:12:23 AM
Nice presentation Layne.  I can smell the fumes from here--lol. 
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Post by: Tracy on February 04, 2008, 08:56:06 AM
loved it and spent some time on your other videos to as well
loved them all
THANK YOU
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 02:47:00 PM
Layne,
Great video! I am new to molding & casting. What is the fish first laying on that you washed off? Is it borax?

Thank You,
Don
Hi Don

That material is called High Fibe and it is a bedding material I wish was accessable in Hawaii. I can only get it by ordering in 50 lbs bags from California at a place called Hills Brothers. It is great stuff when molding fish! You can reuse it over an over again just be sure to add in Pine sol to get rid of the rotten fish smell.
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 02:49:49 PM

GRUCH
LOL! Fumes is something I will never get used to when molding and casting fish.

Thanks for watching the rest of my vids Tracy! Those are segments from a full lenght movie I am making of my father inlaw.
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Post by: Bill4bass on February 04, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
Wow, That was fantastic. Thanks a million. It's truly a confidence builder for us that have never tried it.
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 08:45:19 PM
Wow, That was fantastic. Thanks a million. It's truly a confidence builder for us that have never tried it.

Hey bill4 bass

It is really something you dont get in one try, but my intent is to do just that to build confidence in those who have the passion and drive to learn to mold.

Once you do learn it, It is a knowledge worth it's weight in gold!

Good Luck
Layne
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Post by: Dave Smith on February 04, 2008, 09:09:28 PM
The only thing that could've made it better is a little Jack Johnson or Brudda IZ- he he Very Cool!
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Post by: den007 on February 04, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
Hey Layne.....do you know a fishing guide in those parts by the name of Stan Wright? He does peacock bass trips and bonefish. They have a fly shop as well.

Enjoyed the lesson......wish it was that fast and easy!

Den
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Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 04, 2008, 10:05:37 PM
Hey Dave

You sure know the recent Hawaiian Mucisians! Jack is cool and Iz legendary!

Den

Stan Wright is a legendary fisherman and photographer here in Hawaii. When I was a kid about 30 something years ago, I use to watch him on TV as a guest on our only Fishing Show Let's Go fishing. It was sure funny seeing him during the cooking segment and how he couldnt stand raw fish...

We Hawaii people sure love our raw fish or sashimi!

Aloha
Layne
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Post by: KBauman on February 04, 2008, 10:16:54 PM
Thanks, I always wanted to see someone elses techniques.  Great Job!
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Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 05, 2008, 01:44:18 AM
Thanks, I always wanted to see someone elses techniques.  Great Job!
Kbauman

Thank you the the nice reply! I have to admit, that my molding method is rather barbaric and not as neat as others. I also had on latex gloves due to my liver count being really bad, took a Billiburin test and found that the solvents were getting the best of me.

After about a year working with protection like gloves and a full face respirator, My liver is back to normal.

I will hopefully put up a silicone molding video or painting video next

Have a great work week
Layne
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Ron Elkins Taxidermy on February 05, 2008, 05:53:03 PM
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and skill!
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: guild66 on February 06, 2008, 04:19:43 PM
great vid,  I had posted in the molding and casting section about a couple of questions that were confusing to me but after seeing your video it cleared them up for me and i now feel confident i will beable to finish my project on time.  i am looking forward to seeing the silicone video.  thank you for posting the video
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 06, 2008, 07:13:48 PM
Elkins Taxidermy Your welcome!
Guild66
I am glad that short video helped you with molding. There is one step that is not shown and it is of the thickened resin made by using cabosil mixed with marine laminating. I mix up a batch to a consistency of peanut butter and brush them into the area where I know will have air pockets when I laminate with the resin and fiberglass mat. This mixture is known as squeez out and I also put it in a newpaper cone to put along the borders of the fish so that everything is welded together internally.
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: guild66 on February 07, 2008, 10:54:06 AM
ok one more question?  the newspaper cone do you put it inside the mold? or do you put the resin mixture into a news paper cone and apply it to the edges of the fish before you close the mold?
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Hawaiian Game Fish on February 07, 2008, 01:16:01 PM
ok one more question?  the newspaper cone do you put it inside the mold? or do you put the resin mixture into a news paper cone and apply it to the edges of the fish before you close the mold?

Hi again sorry for not explaining more detailed. I mix up a batch of marine laminating with cabosil to the consistency of peanut butter. This consistency also prevents roll off and keeps the resin where you squeezed it on.

I then place this mixture in a newspaper cone and cut off the tip of the cone about 1 inch. I then squeeze out this along the inside border of the fish where everything will be connected or the seam area. for the thin areas like the fins I only do it on one side. Areas such as the head will be needed to be done on both sides. After you apply this squeeze out mixture to the two halfs you are ready to put your two side of the mold together and clamp them shut.

I also forgot to mention before you shut the mold, laminate a block of wood on the side of the mold that is on the bottom. This will be your stud for you to screw in your hanger.

Hope this helps!
Layne
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Post by: ET-Taxidermy on June 02, 2010, 10:23:44 PM
Link does not work anymore
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Post by: CrabCrazy on June 03, 2010, 08:38:35 AM
he's on youtube...just search for molding and casting fish
Title: Re: Molding & Casting Fish short video
Post by: Fary on July 12, 2010, 05:48:08 AM
I'm sorry the http address now is forbidden.
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Post by: CrabCrazy on July 12, 2010, 04:30:43 PM
it s still there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQP5ZIfXUpo
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Post by: Fary on July 13, 2010, 05:19:23 AM
Thank you very much, I got it
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Post by: classic tails on August 03, 2010, 04:13:33 PM
really cool.... thanks for sharing....