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dhart
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« on: October 22, 2011, 04:02:01 PM »

Sure glad I was not in the business way back when.  This form is from a deer mounted in 1947.  It is hollow and made of a heavy paper or cardboard.
Anyone know anything about this form, please respond.


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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 04:03:26 PM »

here are a few more pictures.  The cape was in pretty decent shape, but, a dog got at the nose and ears.


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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 09:11:00 PM »

Back in the 50s my best friends dad made his own. He had plaster casts that he then made his forms out of paper. Jonas Brothers had paper forms similar to that. I have two deer mounted with old paper forms. One of them looks like a dog with the eyes located way forward.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 07:20:04 AM »

It's not JW Elwood.  The "Chieftain" brand forms were flat across the top.  I tore one apart yesterday.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 07:53:18 AM »

It looks like a "Van Dyke" mannikin. All the mannikin's at  that time looked similar , as they all do today.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 09:17:50 AM »

There's really no way to know who made that one.   I helped a guy when I was a kid mount on Touchstone paper mannikins.   First thing you do is cut out a backboard to fit the core of the mannikin.   You could order them with the backboard inserted, but that was a dollar more, and no self respecting taxidermist was going to pay a dollar for that!   
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 09:30:09 AM »

I am so old I used to make paper forms like that out of plaster molds. Jonas used to sell them and most of those forms esp. the big bear life size forms were excellent forms.    Neck mounts with panels on the back used to be the norm. They are made with red rosin paper torn into strips and dipped in dextrin paste and layered into the waxed mold. To speed up everything you added a little plaster to the dextrin . When dry you had to shelack them and add the backboards; we added the head board most of time into the layers of paper while making the form. Actually many of these forms were very accurate with lots of fine detail and this is the way the forms of almost all of the big city taxidermy museum mounts you see today were made. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 12:19:41 AM »

I have a zebra I mounted on a Jonas paper form hanging in my office from the early 70's or so that still looks great....we just used to do a lot of clay sculpting to make it look good back then..
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 09:31:55 AM »

Didn't seem all that long ago that the Jonas Bros. company was issuing a catalog stating that many of their old paper forms were now going to be made in foam. They came out with a book on modeling over paper forms,using measurements from the skin or carcass. Does anyone remember that one. It was quite detailed and it took you step by step through the whole process ,,deer ,sheep etc.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 12:03:43 AM »

I've made thousands of those forms...one at a time...by hand...50% rag paper, dextrine glue, and plaster; paper dipped in the glue and laid in a plaster mold, one piece at a time for 8 to 10 layers. Took FOREVER I thought. Cause the paper was torn into small pieces of about one x two inch strips. Dried, sanded, put together and sold in our catalog back in the 1950's and 1960's and into the 1970's.  Swartz Taxidermy in St. Louis, MO was one of our biggest customers. We had some really lifelike forms because Dad was an old river rat who made a living in his younger days floating the rivers and hunting and trapping. He KNEW what an animal looked like and how it was shaped.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 06:29:34 AM »

Swamp Angel...you need to do a seminar on making those mannikins, just for old times sake!   It is a lost art!
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2014, 09:23:12 AM »

Things being what they are, I just took the antlers off a Schwartz mount on a paper form the other day. Going to keep the old mount around. I will try to post a pic. of it in the next day or so.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 01:16:52 PM »

Back in the early 50's that's all you had to mount on unless you made a manikin from scratch. Now that was a chore...boiled skull screwed to a 2X4 and then screwed to a shaped backboard ( like a panel ). Then wet excelsior and string pulled up tight and shaped. A bit of plaster to smooth out some of the rough spots...clay the face then mount. Actually this was how the manikin was made to make the plaster mold. Only difference was the details were put in by a covering of plastiline clay. Then the mold was poured...2 part...three part or more depending on how complicated the finished piece was going to be. Few taxidermists are still around that actually worked this way...at 79 I'm fortunate to remember those days but really don't want to go back. Good luck...JL           
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