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Nukawin
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« on: April 12, 2012, 06:48:21 PM »

This is not one of my own skulls, but I came across this on deviantART and the owner said a taxidermist labelled it as a European Badger.

I own THREE European badger skulls, Male, Female, and Male Juvenile, all harvested from roadkills and cleaned by myself, and NONE of them look like this, so I'm 100% sure this isn't a Badger.

It was originally labelled as an Asian Palm Civet, but after the owner bought a book, they started having doubts. Anyways, ID the skull please? With permission from the owner, here are the images of the skull;



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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 07:05:50 PM »

Cool looking skull wish I could help.
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ravenswings1
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:19:15 PM »

My guess maybe a racoon dog, I'm sure the Euro guys will be able to ID it. Has a very unsual crest.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 07:27:06 PM »

I have 2 Raccoon Dog skulls too, nope  ???

I'm thinking it could be a Civet, with a very large crest. I'm working on a Red Fox skull atm with a very unusual crest on it :/
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 07:52:04 PM »

I still say it's a male Civet. I agree with you 100% it is not a European badger.It's not a raccoon dog either, but it raccoon dog skulls do look similar to the civet skull.  I think that this type of civet might be a species that has heavy sexual dimorphism. Male and female Coatis have different looking skulls too, with males having huge sagittal crests, heavier features on the skull and large canine teeth. Same goes for Fishers.

I'm not certain that it's an Asian palm civet, but I'm still leaning toward some kind of civet. For a while I was pretty certain that it was just a big male Asian Palm Civet, but i'm not sure those have sexual dimorphic skulls.  I've honestly never really studied civets or their skulls before, so I'm making an educated guess over here.

I'm really glad you posted this here! :D Everyone kept saying it was a badger, but there's a lot of features on a European Badger skull that this skull doesn't have.

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Nukawin
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 08:45:49 PM »

Yeah I HAD to get the pictures here, the very fact people were calling it a badger really rode on my nerves, it obviously ISN'T one! lol
I'm glad I got permission to post it :)

I'm starting to think it might actually be a civet with an unusual crest, but then I've never worked, or even owned, a civet skull, so I'm not completely sure. Going by images online, they look pretty similar :/
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 02:23:19 AM »

Here comes eurpoean guy! it's not a badger. ;)
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Nukawin
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 08:28:11 AM »

That's been established XDDD

Problem is what IS it? XDDD
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 10:15:10 AM »

OK, so as we all know, that skull isn't a badger!
that's something actually ;D
If the problem is what IS this, then I can't help miss Lee. :)
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Nukawin
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 10:37:22 AM »

I got an email saying it was a Paradoxurus Hermaphroditus from a Vet in Canada. Awesome :)
Thanks for your help :)
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 10:43:25 AM »

my guess would be a palm civet too (the tag said it even from the start you said)

now as to what family (paradoxurus, nandinia, viverra even or others)

time to get your measuring device out and have a look at these links:

For Nandinia

http://1kai.dokkyomed.ac.jp/mammal/en/species/nandinia_binotata.html

For Paradoxurus

http://1kai.dokkyomed.ac.jp/mammal/en/species/paradoxurus_hermaphroditus.html

There are 3 Viverra species there too

http://1kai.dokkyomed.ac.jp/mammal/en/genus/viverra.html

I'll add here a pic of the family that is not there (small toothed - Arctogalidia male and female)



it would be interesting to look at the last small molars in the upper jaw, in (palm) civets, these are usually round as opposed to say genetta's



genetta



hope this helps


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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 02:02:25 PM »

Thanks! :)
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