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Thefishen1
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« on: April 22, 2012, 09:18:47 PM »

 On my last deer I mounted I was dinged on my antler placement, and they said it threw the whole thing off.When I place them (positive set with bondo) I triple checked them to the measurements I had taken and I thought they looked correct. Soooo I took a couple pics so I can get some different opinions. Right now the antlers are in the proper spot according to the measurements I have taken.Tip of the antler to the nose,tip of the antler to the front corner of the eye, and from the base of the antler to the corner of the eye.

  Let me know what you think...




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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 09:51:46 PM »

to me they look like they are tipped to far forward, set to high and to far back.
main been should be in the same plane as the bridge of the nose.
Drop the antlers down a little, carve a little foam out from in front of the skull cap so the antlers can slide forward.
Lean your antlers back a little more and then check your measurement from the front corner to antler burr.
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huntnut78
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 10:02:25 PM »

Tipped too far forward. If that throws off your tip to nose measurement then you need to take a little off the front of the skullplate, or not sweat it. What is more important is the plane of the bridge of the nose continues into the main beams until the curve. Look at some reference of live deer from the side and you will see what I mean.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 10:03:41 PM »

Dang... Dave beat me to it!
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 11:47:33 PM »

i would cut the form before the skull plate. its a lot easier,and you can take a little off at a time.
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Thefishen1
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 05:58:59 PM »

I didn't think it looked right to me either,I shaved a little off the manikin and it snugged right up and it looks much better I think and all the measurements are good...thanks

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 11:52:04 PM »

Looks much better. Now how does the cape fit.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 05:09:33 AM »

I test fit the cape before I started the antlers, I needed to sand about 1/2 to 3/4 inch off the neck.I'm going to test fit again..."messure twice cut once".The face looked good though, I had a gap in the back on my slit a little sanding well do.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 07:38:37 PM »

This should be the proper antler and earbutt location, not just rule of thumb. We've had judges tell this at
our state competition. Yours is still 1/4 to 1/2" high. Here's a reference pic I found, the antler's and ear butts do line up.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 10:03:49 PM »

There will always be exceptions to the rule and that is why good measurements are key. I just mounted one last week that breaks all the rules!(LOL) Don't have a pic, but his mainbeams shoot straight up off the head.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 06:44:22 AM »

Taking a nose to antler burr measurement doesn't keep you from setting the rack to high in the sky. Anyone can set the rack to the pre skin measurements and still be to high. If you can see turkey Jim's photos, he pointed it out to you.
Who says that the form is correct? If you set the skull to the top edge of the form, you will most always be to high.


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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 12:11:25 PM »

If you measure nose to burr and nose to tip of the main beam before skinning, wouldn't that give you correct height, tilt, and forward/backward?
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 12:22:33 PM »


This one seems to go up?


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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 08:24:55 AM »

If you measure nose to burr and nose to tip of the main beam before skinning, wouldn't that give you correct height, tilt, and forward/backward?

No, because you didn't measure vertically, only length wise. You can measure from nose to tip of beams and burrs, yet if you raise the rack, you can still get the nose to burr and beam tip measurements, but have the rack raised to high.

Silverman, you got your yellow line off, go from the center of the nostril through the front corner of the eye, the burr should set on that line, there are some exceptions on goofy racks, some racks do tilt forward, and some lay back, but on average, they set on that line.


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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 11:05:48 AM »

If you measure nose to burr and nose to tip of the main beam before skinning, wouldn't that give you correct height, tilt, and forward/backward?

No, because you didn't measure vertically, only length wise. You can measure from nose to tip of beams and burrs, yet if you raise the rack, you can still get the nose to burr and beam tip measurements, but have the rack raised to high.

Silverman, you got your yellow line off, go from the center of the nostril through the front corner of the eye, the burr should set on that line, there are some exceptions on goofy racks, some racks do tilt forward, and some lay back, but on average, they set on that line.

But if two legs of the triangle maintain the same length (nose to burr and nose to antler tip) then the third leg should maintain the same length as well (height).
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