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« on: March 23, 2008, 10:10:51 PM »

I flesh, salt, shave and tan my capes.  Would a pressure tanner speed up this process or eliminate any steps?  Or it just another gimmick?
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 11:21:51 PM »

I have had one for 8 or 10 years; it's not a gimmick!
Using the auto tanner you turn and rough flesh, then go right into the tanner for 2 hours, drain & shave,
 then back in for a couple more drain and oil; freeze or mount.
It will save a lot of time and money, especially for a small shop; more importantly, it may save some borderline skins!
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 07:56:33 PM »

I am sorry to be so naive, but is a pressure  tanner anything like a pressure cooker?  Please explain how it works. Thanks . Longtrail
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 08:20:21 PM »

a pressure is like a pressure cooker, but no heat!
Skins are put in your solution, the tank is sealed and pressurized to 50# with a compressor.
The pressure basically injects the solution into the skin, it can do in 3/4 hours what takes 3/4 days through natural osmosis (soaking).
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 10:32:06 PM »

Thats intriguing.   Where does one go about purchasing one of those and what is the usual price?
We brain tan over 300 hides a year and are always looking for some short of work saver or short cut.   We just made leaps and bounds with our newly purchased pressure washer thanks to Paulette.   The pressure tanner might be next.
         Thank you for your reply.
 
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 10:37:09 PM »

The original is carried by dan rinehart, but several of the supply companies now have their own versions
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 10:54:07 PM »

So I will try to type in  Pressure Tanner on my search engine and see what comes up.  Thanks for your speedy response.   lt
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 11:03:54 PM »

I had zero luck with    pressure tanners,  got a lot of info on tanning beds.   Entered Dan Rinehart but nothing useful there.   What sort of supply companies are you refering to?  Is it possible for you to recommend one?  Or two?
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 12:01:30 AM »

In the upper right hand corner of this page is a box full of links.
Click on "suppliers", dan is about a half dozen down the list.
Van Dykes also carries a pressure tanner, but I am not familiar with their machine.
These are usually referred to as "autotanners"
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2008, 01:24:53 AM »

If you do get one I would recommend a stainless one. I ended up building mine but had I not I would have bought one that was stainless. Dan Rineharts website is taxidermyarts.com. There is another guy that was selling them on here by the name of Ron Wagner. When I was going through school I saw his version and really liked it. I don't know if he is still making them but they are worth the money.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2008, 08:41:05 AM »

Longtrail, Look into using a stainless steel  front load washing maching, around 800. I can assure you the pressure is not nessasary.  My experience in commercial tanning is the mechanical action is what you need and not pressure.  I am not knocking the pressure tanner. I am suggesting another choice for less than one half the cost. The larger diameter of the front loader inner drum is a plus. Monte

I have been in some of the largest tanneriers where 30,000 cattle hides a week are tanned into wet-blue and not one of them uses pressure.
However, the mechanical action, considering time, temp., dia. of the drum, the speed of the drum, and the ratio of hides to water are very inportant.

Hope this helps, Monte

PS- In brain tanning what stage of the process are you considering the pressure tanner?
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2008, 10:40:34 AM »

We brain our hides twice.   
flesh
dehair
BRAIN
prestretch
smoke
BRAIN
soften                    I am not sure if it is something that we would even benefit from,  like I said we are looking for things                that make the job easier/quicker/etc.   Thanks for the advice.   I really appreciate everyones
                           suggestions.  Will look into it but will probably just stick with the high tech bucket. haha
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2008, 01:10:28 PM »

I have a pressure tanner from Wegners out of Wisc. If you want a good one and the support to go with it call Ron. It saves so much time and improve turn around and saves salt stage......You will love it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2008, 05:06:44 PM »

thanks for all the advice, it is much appreciated.   
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 11:32:35 AM »

Longtrail, I've had my pressure tanner for almost a year.  I lovvvveeeeee that thing.  I got it from one of my teachers at the taxidermy school I went to.  I even used it to dehair an elk hide last week.  I put the hydrated lime solution & hide in the tanner...aired it up to 50...let it roll for 8 hours.  Took the hide out, spun it in my old washing machine, rinsed it, spun it again then took it outside & squirted it with my old power washer.  It only went up to 1200 psi though.  :(  Some of the hair was stuck & I had to scrape it out, but it was still quicker than letting it sit in the dehairing stuff.  (I just got a new washer...goes 3000 psi & I am so excited I can't hardly stand myself!)  Anyway, I love my tanner.  It's worth the $ to me because I don't have to send my deer out.  I haven't ever Krowtanned, so I don't know how long that takes for certain, but from what I've read, it's 2-3-4 days?  Pressure tanner, it's just like what Mike D said.  Flesh, turn, tan 2 hours, thin where needed, back in the tanner, mount/freeze.  That easy.  ;)
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