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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2006, 12:40:05 AM »

Nina,

First of all, very nice job and I agree with John C about experience, which is the "ultimate mentor" in this art and sometimes Frankenstien biz we call taxidemy...just kidding!  Not!  Actually, I was filleting the nasal cartilage off a deer nose when some kids walked in and went "ewwww!"  So, I guess there is some Frankenstienish element to our art.  At least the goulish part of caping and splitting lips, etc. is such.....even though it is routine in the world of taxidermy!    :o

....and learning as one goes...or something to that effect.

Read my comment on "What Bit for Lip Slot" to help answer your lip question.  Hey, that "first mount pic" I dug out and posted has AWFUL lip pulling and eye shrinkage......it will get better as you go.   8)

For a young lady, I like your spirit and eagerness and willingness to learn.  It is encouraging to see young folks taking up the art of taxidermy.  Stick with it even when you go through spells of discouragement...we all hit the "mundane" periods and blahs in the biz.

Heck, I'm feeling older even though I'm 39!  Heck...not for long...gosh, I turn 40 in January!  :o  But you are learning as a youth and have so much of an advantage BECAUSE of that!  An advantage because imagine all the experience you will have ONCE you hit 40 (gawd forbid!).  

Your father and family must be so proud of you!  Plus it is obvious that you have found a wonderful fellowship of "brothers and sisters in the biz" in this forum.

Take care,

Jeff
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2006, 04:01:37 AM »

Hey there!!!

It's great of you to try to help a girl out, but please don't DISCOURAGE HER, or "Tear apart her mount"  Like trophy specialist...Be honest,fair,and give her pointers and suggestions, don't try to hurt feelings....  Did the trophy specialist read her profile??? I believe Nina is only 15YRS old, and she is doing a heck of a job for her age, but sure, we can all use some improvement....Remember your first buck mount??????  I'll tell ya what.......Didn't look much like a living deer to me.......

NINA.....  Some helpful suggestions from Yaak River Wildlife Mounts in Montana is:  Dremel your lip line with a "lip-locker" dremel bit available from MC Kenzie, so your lips stay tight...Shave them extremely thin, also...Put some BUCKEYE SUPREME, killer glue,etc. in the lip slot so that when you roll in your skin, it stays PUT!!   Use lots of reference photos of a live whitetail deer....I like to use a stout ruffer, and also slim ruffer to ruff up my ear liners, then use Buckeye Supreme paste to secure the ear in place...Make sure you use reference, and roll those inner white hairs to where they belong...Deer ears are nice and crisp, and make sure your ears fit right, first of all, then press that ear in place when you have your glue on the ear liners...Work them good, and after you mount the buck and have things situated, card your ears for a few days for a crisp ear that your customers will love!!!

Reference, reference, reference....And also a good expert video from Scott Brewer, Roger Martin, Joe Meder, etc pays big dividends!!   Best Of luck!!   You can do it!!!   ;)
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2006, 10:03:54 AM »

No I did not look at her profile and I shouldn't need to.  She asked for opinions on her mount and I'm not going to insult her by treating her like a kid.  My comments were meant for an adult, which if I were in her shoes, that's what I'd want.  She mentioned that she had done some 15 deer heads.  With that many problems this far down the road, I'll stick with my suggetion to step back and do some studying before the next mount project.  With all the high quality taxidermy videos out there these days, you can gain expertise much quicker than by trial and error.  You can buy videos watch them several times, take notes and then sell them for nearly how much you paid for them by advertising them on this site.  Keep in mind that every highly flawed peice that you put out may haunt you down the road should you decide to do taxidermy professionally.   

Also, don't listen to anybody that tells you not too card the ears.  You want crisp, straight looking ear edges and not ragged looking ones.  Carding accompishes a natural looking ear edge.     

   
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2006, 11:38:14 AM »

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You're kidding right.

Actually I am serious.  I have quite a few deer mounts and have pretty much stopped getting animals mounted these days.  I wouldn't mind at all taking a decent buck to someone like Nina who I think has a very good artistic quality and let her mount a head for me.  I imagine it was easier for you, never had to practice, first mounts just came out awesome eh?
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2006, 03:58:47 PM »

Keep doing what your doing, and go to the shows and you will learn as you go. I think  that for your age, your doing a real good job. Keep it up , and don't let the super hero's like trophy specialist get to you. I will guarentee that if he posted a mount that he did ,we could all find something wrong with it.
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 11:53:39 PM »

I think that using a slow setting paste and then adjusting the skin while studying reference photos will help alot.
When looking at a good photo and your mount at the same time, it will be obvious when the eyes are good and so on.
I would bet money that the best known taxidermists these days all still study reference photos when mounting.
You've got the drive and initiative I will give you that.
You probably just need to shave your stuff thinner to solve the shrinkage problems.
A good technique is to push a little extra skin toward the lips and eyes. In other words, dont smooth it away from these areas. The skin will shrink away from edges. The large areas in the middle don't need extra skin so put it where it counts.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2006, 02:55:46 AM »

Hey guys!!!

I believe that when someone wants a critique to be PERFECTLY HONEST in your opinion and don't "Blow SMOKE up their yin yang!!

I also believe that we should be caring and wanting to help her, and not be a drill sergeant and tear her a new bungholio!!  I was in the U.S.A.F. for 10 years....I have a little experience at that!! ;)

We should encourage her, and not discourage her, and yes....The TAXIDERMY VIDEOS out there along with reference are awesome!!! And definately worth the $$$$$....I still buy them and re-aquaint myself at times.....Always good to keep an open mind!!

Keep plugging away, NINA!!!  You have all of my support, and if you ever need any help, call me...I will be happy to help!!

Nicholas R. Glorioso, owner
Yaak River Wildlife Mounts   MONTANA
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