2 squirrels, both DP, both slipped badly...I give up...:(
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When are you idiots going to learn that DP is for IDIOT TAXIDERMISTS who are lazy and not smart enough to use a true tanning agent. Get out of the business and let someone else do it right! (After an extended absence due to boredom (of taxidermy.net) and mental instability,............I'M BAAAAAACK!)
I read the archives thoroughly and I do not consider Mr. Roof to be an idiot, that is why i used it. maybe you should extend your absence...a__hole...
What are you guys doing to make the fur slip?tell me
You must be handling things awful rough eh?
What does the squirrel look like In the wild..Is his fur slipping or what?
but if i knew how i was making it slip, i wouldn't do that any more. maybe i am taking too long to get it mounted from the time it is skinned? i got frustrated and stopped, put the skin in the freezer, then came back next day to finish....could that be the reason? frozed/thawed 3 times start to finish....
Bill if the was ezy everyone would be doing it.
Before quitting try a larger shin; Larger shins are not susceptible to the heat.
MIT be the length of time and heat during your prep that's giving you problems
I'm not a DP guy, but that's my thinking.
Try keeping the squirrels wet with alcohol while mounting. The evaporation of the alcohol will keep the skin cool during mounting and possibly prevent the slippage problem. This process works well on fox ears. Just a thought.
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I'm still having too much fun to totally throw in the towel, but i DO think i am going to change my method....i like the way the DP has turned out my snakes thus far, but i think (at least for now) i will tan everything furbearing to give me more time when the sewing starts...i have 2 more in the freezer and i have everything i need to tan with, so after i cool down a bit i will try that route....thank you to those that were trying to help, i just got frustrated and needed to vent.
As you atetd earlier the three times you froze and defrosted. That would make the hair slip on any mammal
I have been doing Taxidermy for 16 years and have done at least 90% of my work with D.P. and have NEVER had any trouble and NEVER any slips ,I have done bobcats ,fox, squirrels, whitetails, mule deer sheep ,elk, fish ,porcupines,caribou,and all kinds of birds so I think I have covered all the bases, and my work looks as good today as the day I did the work, and customers just keep coming Back. 5 years ago NO one would use liquid tan and auto tanners,so look around you today,maybe people ONLY BAD MOUTH THINGS THEY DON`T REALLY KNOW HOW TO USE PROPERLY. I know a lot of taxidermist don`t think it is good but they don`t run people down and call us that do use it IDIOTS, USE A LITTLE RESPECT, IF YOU HAVE ANY Steve Snelgrooes
I have not read one post in 4 months that was even close to being spelled correctly
If you go to my posts, you will see that I can spell. lololol!
Are you having troubles, with your comprehension [un·der·stand·ing] skills?
just for fun i checked---your statment is not true. haha
and all this time i thoght i was spelling all of my words correctly!
Sounds like your taking way to long getting it on the mount. Ive skinned em in the middle of august in my garage and heat was about 95 deg. Humidity hangin about 85% which is normal for southeast Texas and never had a problem..Im going to say 3 hours total time from start to finish on a tree rat.
Bill, The slipping hair is not caused by your use of dry preservative. Thousands of squirrels are done that way each year. wetnwild is correct that multiple freezing can cause the problem. I would suggest that you try pickling the skin for 2 days, neutralizing, dp and mount. This is a proven way to greatly extend working time as the hair is set during the pickle. Now, you can also tan after the pickle, and many will say that is best, but dp and squirrels go together just fine and the pickle is good insurance against your currant problem. When mounting the critter, handle it only as much as necessary. Don't give up yet as your next attempt may be a great success. Enjoy, Aaron H.
Just skin and D.P and mount forget the washing and swishing
everything & tumbling have a plan and get to it?
Of course If It Is soaked with blood that Is differant
Amen Steve I finding that there is alot of misconseption on these forums about DP. DP has worked great for me if it's done right. And that's the problem "Done Right"! Dont get me wrong I love the tanned stuff and use it mostly, but I also know that I can turn just as much quality out of a DP mount and it will last a lifetime.
The D.P Issue Is resolved once and for all.
No it's just like taxes. It will never go away. By the way my problem is usually not the spelling but hitting the right keys on the keyboard.
DP is great and it is very cost affective. 10 punds 4 dollars. I have never had a problem with it withen the last 5-6 years. Shut up who ever doesn't like it. Just keep yuore ocmments to yourself!
DP is great and it is very cost affective. 10 punds 4 dollars. I have never had a problem with it withen the last 5-6 years. Shut up who ever doesn't like it. Just keep yuore ocmments to yourself!
Wonder why they do not Dp fur coats? Open for discussion.
Lets compare apples to apples here.... Your talking about a garment not a taxidermy peice. DP is just as good as tanning as I said before,and in some case's I feel it's better as it almost always has more stretch and suffer's less color loss than tanned hide's. Most peopel dont have the patience for it because they cant just rough flesh it, salt it, tann it, and then throw it on a manikin. Great care has to be taken when fleshing a DP hide to make shure it is thin enough to not suffer shrinking problems in the drying process.
I'd bet if you took a look at some of the pieces of the peopel who are bashing DP. Youd be abel to tell a littel about there patince!
I am 15years old and when I did my first squirrel the hair started to slip almost immediately even before I skinned it. After it was skinned I used stop-slip by Jonas and the hair set up perfectly.