First deer head,Forgot to card ears and they are drumming can i fix this problem by rehydrating and then card HELP
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You might be able to rehydrate the ears, but you need to use adhesive then card the ears. If you use no glue or adhesive, you will always have problems.good luck
DAVE,FIRST SUBMERSE THE EAR LINERS IN PAINT THINNER OR MINEARAL SPIRITS TO SOFTEN THEM UP. THEN PLACE THEM IN A PAIL WITH SOME SAND,COVER AND SHAKE. THEY WILL COME OUT WITH SAND STUCK ALL OVER THEM. ALLOW THEM TO DRY AND PROCEED AS NORMAL. THE SAND WILL GIVE THE PASTE SOMETHING TO ADHERE TO. TRY THIS AND YOU WILL HAVE LITTLE TO NO FURTHER PROBLEMS WITH EAR DRUMMING.
HAPPY TO HELP,BULL MOOSE
hey bull, that's probably the best solution i've heard of to stop drumming problems. thanks for the idea. bob m
That sand bit is a simple bandaid on an amputation. Just what you want to feel is sand under the skin of an ear. There's a real lesson to be learned from this.
FIRST, the earliner is softened so the sand will stick. DUH, what if you got a glue that would actually stick to the earliner instead.
SECOND, ears drum primarily because the earliners used have not been fitted properly. If the liner is cut to size, the ear skin will like in place until ANY glue adheres it.
Plastic earliners are self-lubricating and only a glue that can breech that property will work on ears. Epoxy is one of those products. Epo-Grip eliminated the ear drumming problem years ago and they sell several types with differing cure times just for that purpose.
And Bull Moose, please unlock your Caps Key. Then you can spray your ear liner with spray glue and let it just set there and dry. Then you can use any hide paste you'd like and it will affix itself to the contact glue that's dried on the plastic without the dips and chips.
But why pay the epoxy price and mess. If you prep the earliners correctly and make sure the adhesive has something to grab then your hide paste will work just fine. Just use something that will scratch the liner well and adhesive will stick to it. I use Buckeye Supreme without any problems. And it is easlily cleaned up with water if you make a mess.
Todd B
hey george, just shareing what works for me and the way i was taught, didn't ask to be attacked. "duh" ?
BULL MOOSE
hey george, just shareing what works for me and the way i was taught, didn't ask to be attacked. "duh" ?
BULL MOOSE
Sorry if it sounded that way, but the method you described went away just like when I was first taught. At that time, we used caulk and were told to take a hole punch and "ventilate" the earliners so that the caulk could sandwich the earliner between. Todd is right only to the extent that his earliners FIT properly. If they didn't, Buckeye Supreme would never hold the ear in place. Epoxy bonds urethane, water based paste is only contact cement and contact cement WILL DISBOND from plastic earliners if they are not sized properly. Us old guys used cardboard and dextrine years ago. Then lead sheeting and copper were used before the plastic came along. Some of the best material for bonding ears with regular glue is the Celastic earliners which are a material with plenty of surface area to hold a bond.
Problem is, most glues won't stick very well to plastic. The sand trick does offer a way for the glue to grip the plastic. Research actually recommends this method.
I have a different take on why ears don't stick...
1. It is hard for any glue to stick to plastic since it is self lubricating.
2. Ears have to be dried AND they must be degreased prior to using any adhesive. When you oil something down, then you slide an already slick plastic into an oily ear, you are asking for problems. I use mineral spirits or acetone. Then scuff up the plastic real well, and drill some holes in it.