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Submitted by tim on 1/31/06 at 4:50 PM. ( twwalker39@yahoo.com ) 72.65.19.236

hi folks,i have been reading back to 1999 and my question is i really dont want to use lacquer paints,so what water base paint color is best to use inside the deer ears?all i can find (over there)lol,is tinting inside liners ect.i got my paasche and my compresser,and any extra tibbits ya wanna give thanks alot.................tim

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Tim, In MY OPINION, you're wasting your time

This response submitted by George on 1/31/06 at 5:03 PM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.101.6

Half a dozen people here have touted the use of red coloring INSIDE ears to keep from painting them. Several big named individuals also signed on, but I've seen some of their latest work and guess what, they'd painted the exterior exposed surfaces of the ears.

The translucent membrane on a live deer is maintained that way , but when it dies, the skin is left without that lividity. As you tan the skin, the translucency diminishes or extinguishes and you're still left with a tea colored ear at best. I have the norther tier deer here and they have lots of hair. I'm SUPPOSING the southern tier deer, with their paint job hair have much thinner skins and it would be enhanced. Joe Coombs recommends red flocking. As for me, however, I'm using Epo-Grip Liquid Fast Set straight out of the bottle, letting the ear dry and then painting it.


sorry

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/31/06 at 5:09 PM. ( ) 67.138.13.230

I could never see any advantage to using water based paints for deer, or any mammal. Im a lacquer guy. Sorry I cant help you, but I did wanna respond anyway. Some guys even use oils, so theres certainly ideas out there! Good luck.


george ?

This response submitted by tim on 1/31/06 at 5:09 PM. ( ) 72.65.19.236

goerge maybe i missed something,i have read where your against tinting "inside"thats not what i want to do,what i was trying to ask what color do you spray the ear after its mounted,im from the southern tier in NY,i see WASCO has waterbase deer ear paint,lite,med,dark........thnaks tim


bill

This response submitted by tim on 1/31/06 at 5:11 PM. ( ) 72.65.19.236

the main reason is i have no exhaust in my basement,i have read about fish painting,but im no where near going there,lol.........tim


ever tryed airbrushing

This response submitted by Levi Timmer on 1/31/06 at 5:27 PM. ( levitimmer@aol.com ) 207.200.116.13

you should try a paint in the air brush called life tone i have used it throughtout all my taxidermy in the ears


Tim, Bill Yox is correct, sorry.

This response submitted by George on 1/31/06 at 6:11 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.13

I used water colors (acrylics) for years and they just never worked to my satisfaction. I went back to lacquer after years of being away from it and fell back in love with it's realism. Water based paints tend to bead up and never seem to blend out effectively. I'm with Bill, you're either going to have to go outside and paint (I know, it's cold in NY. LOL) or buy some sort of vent fan to take the fumes away. Nothing works quite like lacquer.


tim

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/31/06 at 11:20 PM. ( ) 67.138.15.224

I just answered you in the other post you did. But I didnt notice you meant ears only, I gave you a base paint suggestion for all membranes. Ears are white, one of the WASCO pink values, and dusting with black and a brown black mix.

More importantly, you MUST use ventilation with water based paint. Whoever says no is wrong. People die from inhaling flour dust, for cripes sake! Anything that goes in the lungs, will do it. Water based paint still has propellants and residuals and thinners and everything else to harm you. Dont skip the mask or the fan. If nothing else, try to get out of the basement with air propelled paints, theyre just not safe. Again, its a long shot, I know, but you see where flour mills blow up, too. Its all combustible, mixed with air.


Luck

This response submitted by Forrest Sue on 2/1/06 at 8:46 AM. ( ) 65.40.162.141

I guess I am a little lucky on this part. I bought an older mobile home and moved it in for a taxidermy shop. I took out the divider between kitchen & living and the carpet and all linoleum. I use water based and have the stove (all appliances removed) vent running. It's one of those that has the chain to open & close the door which when opened the fan runs. Very efficient so far. Plus the kitchen-back door is not airtight.


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