HELP!!! How to do "European" deer head mounts!!!

Submitted by cbensen on 12/6/1998. ( )

If you know ANYTHING about "European" skull mounts, please respond to my post under deer taxidermy. Many thanks!

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Look in the Forums

This response submitted by Ken Edwards on 12/7/1998. ( ken@taxidermy.net )

There are several good responses to this question already listed on the Forums. Check out the following discussions:

Lifesize Mammals: Racoon Skull
Deer Taxidermy: European Mount
Game Heads: European Skull Mount on Whitetail Deer
Beginners: Skull Cleaning Chemical
Hope this helps.


european skull mount on whitetail deer

This response submitted by Kevin (bushwacker) Hill on 1/18/1999. ( )

Let me start by saying i am not
in the business. What Idid was
take the hide off the skull and
buried it up to the antlers,
then put a tub over it so no
varmits could get to it, and let
nature take its course. for
about six or seven months,
but that was for me, not a cust.
Idid have to glue the teeth in
and bleach the skull. hope it helps.


skull mount

This response submitted by Anthony Torres on 11/11/00. ( tonyt4301@yahoo.com )

I just shotme a eight pointer deer and im doing the european mount and i did it in three days.

first:
I cut all the fur and meat from the skull, maid sure all the brains and meat are off.

second:
I bout a 20qt pot and filled it up with water all the way up to the base of the antelers and i also put salt in the water doesn't matter how much the salt is to help nock off any left over meat, i boiled it for about 4 to 5 hours.

third:
after letting sit for a while i went and found a bucket filled it with bleach and i set the skull in a pan, i got a paint brush and started brushing the bleach on insuring to cover the complete skull,
continue to do this until satisfied.

It took me about three days.

the teeth are still intact.


Skull

This response submitted by Brendan on 7/12/01. ( )

I got every bit of meat off ok the skull that i could then i boiled it in a sal soda solution and cleaned off the rest of the meat, then i soaked it in hydrogen peroxide till it was bleached.

Good luck


HELP! CAN'T GET IT WHITE ENOUGH.

This response submitted by TONJA on 12/23/01. ( TUKENNE@AOL.COM )

THIS IS MY FIRST EUROPEAN MOUNT THAT I'M DOING FOR MY SON, AN EIGHT POINTER.
I'M DOWN TO THE BLEACHING PROCESS, I'VE TRIED OXICLEAN, AND PASTE BLEACH WITH 20% DEVELOPER, BUT TO NO AVAIL. THERE ARE STILL SOME SMALL DARK SPOTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUTURE MARKS. WHEN YOU SAY HYDROGEN PEROXIDE, DO YOU MEAN OVER THE COUNTER LIQUID HYDROGEN PEROXIDE, THE KIND WE ALL KEEP IN THE MEDICINE CABINET?
MAY BE I'M JUST EXPECTING BRIGHT WHITE. I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN A EUROPEAN MOUNT IN PERSON.
ANY RESPONSE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU


boiled the skull to much, please help.

This response submitted by chrissy on 12/30/01. ( popechrissy@hotmail.com )

HELLO. I AM TRYING TO DO MY FIRST EUROPEAN ELK MOUNT FOR MYSELF. I HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT TO DO JUST FROM OTHER PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. I BOILED THE SKULL TO GET OFF THE MEAT IT BOILED FOR 1 WHOLE DAY. THAT NIGHT I TOOK IT OUT AND SCRAPED OFF SOME MEAT TO HELP THE PROCESS ALONG. I THEN PUT IT BACK IN THE WATER AND BOILED IT ALL DAY THE NEXT DAY. WHEN I PULLED IT OUT IT STARTED TO FALL APART DOWN TOWARD THE NOSE. EVEN THE SKULL STARTED TO PULL APART. I KNOW IT IS FIXABLE I'M JUST NOT TO SURE WHAT TO USE TO GLUE IT TOGETHER. SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT BE NOTICEABLE. PLEASE HELP ME IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT I CAN DO. THANKS SO MUCH!


SKULL MOUNTS

This response submitted by DANIEL on 1/6/02. ( dtbrown86@hotmail.com )

I found a great method for doing a skull mount at www.edersbow.com It was my first time doing a skull mount and it turned out great. Hope this helps!


this works

This response submitted by Courtney Loon on 1/8/02. ( )

This is what you do! Take your bucks head and bury that in an ant pile for a few days. Preferably red ants! And your done!


skull mount in an hour

This response submitted by david on 1/17/02. ( DAVID BUCKKILLER@aol.com )


When you get ready to do your mount get take as much hide and
meat off as you can than contact your local taxidermist and ask
them for salsoda it takes about 1cup per gallon of water then
boil the skull for about an hour checking it from time to time
all the leftover meat will turn jelly like then just spray it
off with your water hose when it dries it will be bleach white.


Skull mount

This response submitted by seth on 5/26/02. ( )

Bunch of crap if you ask me!


Works great if patient

This response submitted by L. Anderson on 5/31/02. ( )

This is the easiest way I've found to do a euro mount.
You have to be patient so it probably won't be a good idea if you have
to do it for a customer.
I cut off the head and put it in a large plastic flower pot (something
you get when you buy a shurb or plant at the garden store) .
Put about two inches of dead leaves in the bottom, put the entire head
in the pot, hide, ears, brains, everything no cleaning. Put more leaves and pine needles in the pot until totally full. Cover it with a piece of burlap, soak it with water put it behind the shed or something and walk away for about 4-5 months. Pull it out five months later, the lower jaw should fall right off in the pot.
Hose it out really good. Submerge whole head in plain water overnight to rinse out any bugs. I then poured four pints of over the counter peroxide into a five gallon bucket, put the head in then filled the rest of the bucket with water. Keep bucket covered with dark trash bag because peroxide is light sensitive. About twenty four hours later remove head, rinse and set in sun all day long. If you want the head brighter you may have to do peroxide wash again. ( no chlorox )


I did this as a beginner before I found this web site and the two heads I did turned out extreamly well. Hope this helps the beginner or the professional.


skull

This response submitted by nate on 07/22/2002. ( )

go and have a pro taxedermist do it it dont cost that much i had one done for $70


Home Euro-Mount

This response submitted by Chris U. on 10/29/2002. ( Ungabomber@aol.com )

I started off by skinning out the head, and removing the lower jaw and as much muscle and tissue as possible. I had read to boil the head in a water/salsoda mix, but I couldn't find any salsoda (sodium chloride) locally, so I used about a cup and a half of a cleanser called "B Brite" in the boil. B Brite's main cleansing ingredient is sodium cloride, and it also contains sodium silicate. I got the cleanser from a beer brewing store (my other hobby). Careful to keep the antlers out of the water, I boiled the skull for about 4 hours, intermittently removing it from the pot and picking away the loosened flesh. I found toothpicks and SOFT wire brushes useful in removing flesh from the skull cavity. To my surprise, after the boil, all the teeth were intact.

Next, I went to a local beauty shop supply store (Sally Beauty) and bought a couple of bottles of "Clairoxide 40" by Clairol. This hydrogen peroxide based haircolor activator is much stronger than the peroxide you can buy in the grocery store. You should have seen the woman's face when I told her why I needed it! However, you must be careful as it is a tad on the caustic side...rubber gloves and safety goggles may be a good idea...and by the way, whatever you do, DO NOT use chlorine bleach...it will turn the skull brittle and chalky.

I soaked the skull in about a 50/50 mix of the clairoxide and water for 24 hours, once again being careful to keep the antlers (and bases) out of the bleaching solution. Every so often I would scrub the skull with an old toothbrush.

I chose not to, but you may varnish the finished product if you like. I prefer the natural look of bleached bone.

This was my first time, but I must say, my method was easy...and the results? Marvelous...

Anyone can do this...why pay a taxidermist or a beetle farm?!?!

Good luck and Happy Hunting!

Chris


Home Euro-Mount

This response submitted by Chris U. on 10/29/2002. ( Ungabomber@aol.com )

I started off by skinning out the head, and removing the lower jaw and as much muscle and tissue as possible. I had read to boil the head in a water/salsoda mix, but I couldn't find any salsoda (sodium chloride) locally, so I used about a cup and a half of a cleanser called "B Brite" in the boil. B Brite's main cleansing ingredient is sodium cloride, and it also contains sodium silicate. I got the cleanser from a beer brewing store (my other hobby). Careful to keep the antlers out of the water, I boiled the skull for about 4 hours, intermittently removing it from the pot and picking away the loosened flesh. I found toothpicks and SOFT wire brushes useful in removing flesh from the skull cavity. To my surprise, after the boil, all the teeth were intact.

Next, I went to a local beauty shop supply store (Sally Beauty) and bought a couple of bottles of "Clairoxide 40" by Clairol. This hydrogen peroxide based haircolor activator is much stronger than the peroxide you can buy in the grocery store. You should have seen the woman's face when I told her why I needed it! However, you must be careful as it is a tad on the caustic side...rubber gloves and safety goggles may be a good idea...and by the way, whatever you do, DO NOT use chlorine bleach...it will turn the skull brittle and chalky.

I soaked the skull in about a 50/50 mix of the clairoxide and water for 24 hours, once again being careful to keep the antlers (and bases) out of the bleaching solution. Every so often I would scrub the skull with an old toothbrush.

I chose not to, but you may varnish the finished product if you like. I prefer the natural look of bleached bone.

This was my first time, but I must say, my method was easy...and the results? Marvelous...

Anyone can do this...why pay a taxidermist or a beetle farm?!?!

Good luck and Happy Hunting!

Chris


european head mount

This response submitted by rav v on 11/20/2002. ( )

i did my whitetail buck, european head mount in 1 evening. i skinned the head. boiled it in plain ole water for 3 hours in a 5 gallon bucket suspended over an open fire. i used 3 poles and a chain to suspend it.i pulled everything i could off of it, then i took it to the local car wash and used a high pressure sprayer to clean it for about 10 minutes. i may bleach it later, but i am not sure if it really needs it, it looks pretty awesome like it is!


Easy Method

This response submitted by K. Linden on 11/21/2002. ( )

I have found the easiest way to clean your skull is first skin the head and remove the lower jaw, and then go to your local car wash or any place that has a high pressure washer (preferably one that has hot water). Just wash away the meat as much as possible and then take and boil the rest for about an hour or so. Take back to the car wash and blow off all that is left. Bleach with Peroxide and your all finished. Total clean time about two hours!


How do you Remove The Brain?

This response submitted by Bill on 11/28/2002. ( )

Does the brain come out when you boil the skull or do you have to Get it out by other means? If so how? Please help any Advice would be great. Thanks


Correction To Above "HOME EURO-MOUNT"

This response submitted by Chris U. on 12/05/2002. ( Ungabomber@aol.com )

Sorry about my absent mindedness... The "Salsoda" I spoke of isn't sodium chloride like I said (That's tablesalt...duh!) It's actually sodium carbonate. Oops.

Also in response to the above post...

I cheated with the brain, and forgot to mention that in the web-post. After the boil, there is a small passage (for the spinal cord) at the back of the brain at the base of the skull. I used a small cordless sawzall to make that bigger. The hole is not noticeable looking at the deer mounted on the wall. From there I used various screwdrivers and pieces of heavy copper wire with hooks bent onto their ends to dig all that stuff out. But I didn't quite get it all...the rest just sort of dried out inside the skull. It's invisible to the onlooker too!

Have fun out there, and help preserve our sport. Remember: "Each One Teach One" Everyone do their part, let's keep our heritage.

Chris


Bleaching of skull

This response submitted by Mich on 03/27/2003. ( )


I`ve tried this flowerpot method with a roebuck skull from the last hunting season. The meat was all gone allright after three months but the skull was very miscoloured with paches of brown and black...
I tried to bleach the skull with hydrogen peroxide but Im still not satisfied. Does anybody know if the skull will be damaged if i lett it bleach in a bath of hydrogen peroxide for a longer period? I just smeard the stuff on to the skull and lett it work for 1 hour....

If anybody could help me I would be very happy


Bleaching the skull with hydrogen peroxide

This response submitted by Todd K on 10/17/2003. ( )

When bleaching the skull with hydrogen peroxide first wrap the skull with batting used for quilts. Use white string to secure it. Butchers string workes great. Be sure to fill in the eye sockets and any other nooks with the batting as well. Make sure the batting is not touching the antler bases in areas you do not want bleached. Place the skull in a tinfoil roasting pan and carefully pour peroxide over the entire wrapped area. The batting acts as a wick keeping the skull in contact with the peroxide for a greater period of time. Some of the peroxide will run to the bottom of the pan. I use a chicken baster or small measuring cup to collect excess liquid and periodically re-wet the skull. I treat the skull for a full 24 hrs using a professional salon strength hydrogen peroxide with outstanding results. I must note that I boil my skulls so I am not sure what your results would be like using alternative methods.


do you boil the antlers?

This response submitted by pete t on 11/22/2003. ( ptrivero@hotmail.com )

when you do the boiling of the skull do the antlers go in the water also?


had great luck!

This response submitted by Joe Rodriguez on 11/24/2003. ( )

Well, why bother with all of the time consuming things?
The european mount can be done within a matter of fourty minutes. First, skin the skull. Second, Scrape all the debree off the out side and inside of skull; as much as possible. Third, boil skull with antlers of of water for about twenty minutes. Fourth, pull skull out of water and work on getting the remaining debree; Using any hand tools that will not damage the project. If all the debree is not completly off by now repeat the third and fourth step. Lastly sand skull generously with 220 grain sand paper for a nice smooth feeling and a bright white look. This method has worked for me and I am sure it will for you as well.


not for sure if i want to try it

This response submitted by darrell on 11/27/2003. ( )

I have read all of these response's and still not sure about trying this at home. this is my first euro-mount with a nice rack I am on the verge of getting it done but I like to do things myself.There are to many different ways dissplayed and not a one puts me at ease with doing this. I am a man with some degree of intelligence and i am not afraid of getting my hands dirty but I do not want this mount messed up! is there a pro out there reading this? respond soon!


Safari Style

This response submitted by Mac on 12/13/2003. ( )

Went to RSA ona Safari and learned how they do it over there. With cape off they submerge the entire skull in water for about one week. After soaking they use a high pressure washer and it ALL blows right off. Even the interior matter is blown out. I received all my trophies and all except the warthogs could be european'd the day I picked them up. The problem with Warthogs is that the receiver (port of entry, tannery) is required to boil Warthogs and other species and this screws up the beautiful white shull.


Skull Mount- don't make it difficult

This response submitted by Craig on 12/29/2003. ( rcv@sbcglobal.net )

I giggled at some of these methods posted, it seems folks try just about anything. I don't recomend forcing the process so hard to finish in 1 day. I have done several of these and learned thru trial and error what works.

The best way is to gain as much exposure to the elements as possible, (i.e. sunlight, ants, maggots). I tie or chain mine to a tree in a wooded area behind my house. After approx 2 weeks I can easily pull any remaining skin and/or fur off with pliers, but most all the meat, fur, and brains will be gone at this point.

Next, I boil the skull for about 1.5 hours. Any other meat will come off at this point. Next I soak skull only in bleach water overnite. RInse with fresh water, let dry completely, then paint white (white watercolor paint- 50 cents at craft store). A gleaming white skull is very impressive, and gives the horns great contrast, as well preserves the bone with a protective coating.

Don't over-bleach or over boil...and no need to drag the process out over 4-6 months.

Summary:
2 weeks natural decay
1-2 hours boil the head
1 over-nite bleach water soaking
Let dry, and paint white

Finishing the skull is only half the job. For all of that work, you must find a cool way to mount it on the wall. I make custom plaques out of rough cedar for mine and my friends that display the skull, and the arrow, and even a picture of you with your kill. Email me if you want pictures of mine or need some extra tips. I would be glad to help anyone with theirs.

Best of luck- Craig


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