need master to mount peacock

Submitted by Greg L.. on 3/19/06 at 10:28 PM. ( ) 66.216.232.203

I need a master taxy. to mount a peacock please call 320 255 1082 would like ref. thank you

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Hmmmm,

This response submitted by George on 3/19/06 at 10:47 PM. ( georoof@aolc.om ) 152.163.100.67

I wonder where you have to go to get a title like that?


try ed thompson

This response submitted by me on 3/19/06 at 11:34 PM. ( ) 72.145.150.74

he might be expensive but worth it


Use the orange button George

This response submitted by PA on 3/20/06 at 7:22 AM. ( ) 147.72.68.109

Type in Master Taxidermist and a whole lot of names pop up. If someone says they are a Master Taxidermist, then it must be true, right?


what would make a Master, a Master?

This response submitted by Mr.T on 3/20/06 at 7:44 AM. ( ) 64.31.6.57

Other than a sign in the window, is it a self-proclaimed accolade? Or can there really be a Master whatever, and what is the test that they take and pass for the certification of Master? I know of the NTA certification, but is that what makes a Master taxidermist?
Can a young man or women under the age of 20, blue ribbon at the world show in the master's division, be considered a master taxidermist at such a young age?


It's just another ego gimmick Paul

This response submitted by George on 3/20/06 at 8:29 AM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 205.188.117.67

The "masters" divisions were set up to keep the perennial blue ribbon winners segregated from the open division participants. Those that have won these things often chirp about being masters and now, even those who compete in these things claim to be masters. But since there's no rhyme or reason, nor any industry wide specifications, it's still a ceremonial title. I know a bunch of master taxidermists. Some of them claim to be on their business cards, while others never mention it. So if you or I want to be one and since their's no standard set in controlling who is one, we can be masters too. All we have to do is say we are.


Master or not lol

This response submitted by Ken R. Walker on 3/20/06 at 9:25 AM. ( () ) 161.184.204.236

Ed Thompson is a great choice.He did a dark phase rough legged hawk for me and I love it!


Come no George

This response submitted by Grasshopper on 3/20/06 at 9:57 AM. ( ) 218.214.25.75

Quote Those that have won these things often chirp about being masters and now,-unquote
l dont see or hear the likes of
Stef Savides
Frank Newmeyer
Kelly Thomas
Paul Czarneki
Patrick Rummans
etc etc ........chirping about these things, in fact most people ask where are they, or how come we dont see them making comments on the taxinet?
And if they do they dont advertise it.
As they say its the "rusty, broken down, outdated-square wheel" that makes the most noise.
But you are right on one thing, print up a card that uses the words "master" or "artistry," and already you have half the people fooled, the other half simply go by your price.
None of them care to look first.


Those are but a few of the true" masters", Grasshopper

This response submitted by George on 3/20/06 at 12:14 PM. ( ) 205.188.117.67

And I don't think I've heard many of them claiming to be one. They ARE masters because, as an industry, we ACCEPT them to be Masters. Still there's no standard which allows those of lesser talent to make the same claim.


I am going to start

This response submitted by jon on 3/20/06 at 12:55 PM. ( ) 65.29.2.231

printing up MASTER TAXIDERMIST certificates. There will be a large black line where you fill in your name, and several official looking stencils of different birds, and animals , which will have been hand drawn by a master ANIMAL DRAWER (ME...I have the certificate to prove it). Let mw know if you are interested in one...or you can give them out as gifts during the holidays. price will vary depending on how long of a black line you need to write your name on.


I think

This response submitted by DDG on 3/20/06 at 6:27 PM. ( duckduckgoose29@hotmail.com ) 64.33.143.30

what makes a master taxidermist a master taxidermist is what that person can make his customers believe. If he has them convinced that he is a master taxidermist, thats all it takes in my opinion.


True George

This response submitted by Grasshopper on 3/20/06 at 7:19 PM. ( ) 218.214.25.75

And l remember talking with Joe Kish many moons ago at a convention over registration,and the concept that anyone practicing taxidermy, should be required to pass a quality test, regardless of which state you live in, before annointing themselves as a taxidermist.
Just like Electricians are required to be licened to perform there work.
But l guess if "taxidermists" cannot see the worth of membership to a National Organisation like the NTA, then how will the National body ever initiate protection of true craftsman , against the flim-flam fly by nighters leaving a bad taste in the mouth of the public over shoddy work.
l guess any of the smarty pants who think printing "Master" on their business cards fail to see that when a disgruntled customer takes them to court for poor quality , they wont have a leg to stand on against any consumer rights claim.
And finally ,my definition of a master taxidermist, someone who can mount from start to finish any bird fish or mammal, including the tan and construction of their own forms or armatures.


There was a similar discussion over 5 years ago

This response submitted by PA on 3/20/06 at 7:56 PM. ( ) 24.3.179.164

It is an entertaining read. Doug (-eh), Marty, George, Elmer, and Dave Taylor, etc. Copy and paste the link...
http://www.taxidermy.net/forums/IndustryArticles/01/b/01D15BFCEB.html


Joe tried that concept, remember

This response submitted by George on 3/21/06 at 12:07 AM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.100.67

He did it with the PTA and it's taken a few years, but they're trying to get rid of it as we speak. Taxidermists are a dichotomy of ideals. In one breath, they want to be called artists and in the next they want to be called craftsmen. Artists don't have to be certified, craftsmen do. Now which way would you rather have it?


Let you in on a little secret

This response submitted by Grasshopper on 3/21/06 at 8:37 AM. ( ) 218.214.25.75

In the true sense of the word we are all craftsmen,but for value adding reasons, sure, call it art if it pulls more in the sales pitch. We dont "create" anything new in our work, only strive to emmulate what already exists.Birds flying, fish exploding out of simulated water, or Lions draging down prey, it already exists,in mother nature,, and the harder we strive to emmulate or "copy" nature, well the less arty we are.
Like Kish said sculpture a form thats art, glue a leathered skin over the top of it, well its now a stuffed animal.
l had trouble years ago convincing the tax department that l was even a manufacturer (let alone artist), their ruling was, you start with a fish,and end with a fish,,,, what have you manufactured........nothing, it LOOKS exactly the same as when you started
How do you argue that analogy?
"Wildlife artists" of the flat art form have been fighting for years to have their work recognised as "art" in the true sense of the word, but the majority of galleries around the world refer to such works as wildlife "illustrations". On the other hand draw Snoopy the dog or Bugs Bunnny , then, well, yibbida yibbida, thats art folks.


know it all george

This response submitted by old timer on 3/24/06 at 5:44 PM. ( ) 207.69.137.42

george get ajob


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