Republican plan of fear, or just a stupid story? You decide

Submitted by * for A. Alexander on 7/9/06 at 8:47 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

The Republicans Have a Plan - And it is Called FEAR

A. Alexander, July 8th, 2006

Terrorism plots are back in the news. Threats from around the world being hyped - especially threats that though ''sexy'' -- like North Korea -- aren't really threats at all, while real threats like the reemergence of the Taliban in Afghanistan and Islamic extremists taking over Somalia are never mentioned. Too, there are more false claims of WMD having been discovered in Iraq.

It was WMD that the Department of Defense and experts have said were so old -- leftover from 1980's -- as not to be harmful and were not the WMD Bush claimed as his reason for invading Iraq. Nonetheless, it is WMD being sold to GOP voters by the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh as "proof" Saddam had massive stockpiles of, and an ongoing WMD program.

What does it mean? It means it's an election year and, therefore, Bush and Republicans need to instill false fear and outright lie in order to trick voters into supporting them.

Since election 2004, America had faced few terrorist related threats. Suddenly, now that campaign 2006 is underway and Republicans are trailing in polls, barely a day passes without a new threat of some sort being blared across the airwaves. The threats are magnified and over-hyped by the media in a manner designed to instill fear in the hearts of the American people.

One week Iran is the face of "evil". The next it is Zarqawi. Then it is an amorphous thing called "homegrown terrorism", which was highlighted through the arrest of seven hapless fools in Miami. Suddenly the danger shifts and it is North Korea misfiring several harmless missiles. Yet, before the public can breathe a non-anxious breath, a plot to blowup tunnels in New York City is discovered and reported.

The problems with the so-called plot in New York are glaring: It had been reported they wanted to contact Zarqawi, but there was no proof that they ever had. They, like the Miami terror-scare seven, were more ''aspirational than operational''. The FBI would like America to believe and you can bet Americans do, that these latest ''terrorists'' were going to flood New York City. Okay -- first to do what it is claimed they wished to do, they would have had to drive a haul-pack (huge mining dump-truck) sized load of explosives through the city. Then, and here is the kicker -- there would have been no flooding because water can't flow uphill. The river is lower than Manhattan...figure it out.

Just for good measure, however, the FBI is pretending not to be happy about the New York plot being made public because it may hamper their ability to capture all the people involved. The agency spoke of punishing whoever leaked the plot to the press.

Here is the question: When it is discovered that either Karl Rove or another GOP political operative or politician was responsible for the leak, will the FBI punish them? Or will they only punish the person if they are not linked to the Bush administration? Who knows, maybe Bush or Cheney ''declassified'' the information so Rove or another could ''legally'' release the information.

The Republican strategy of dividing the nation while inspiring their base through "culture war" issues has failed. Word has leaked out that Rove intends to run a national "Swift Boat" campaign in any district that might be close. Bush has all ready said Republicans will hold onto both Houses of Congress - apparently not concerned about what voters might decide.

The GOP 2006 strategy is clear: The "culture war" is no longer a winner...it is time to strike the fear of "evil" back into the hearts of the American people. It is time for dire threats that aren't threats to be hyped in the media and it is time for terrorism threats to emerge on a weekly, if not daily basis.

America, be afraid - it is election year 2006 and the Republicans have a plan: Striking FEAR in the heart of every American.

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true or a stupid story? you decide

This response submitted by one of us on 7/9/06 at 9:50 PM. ( ) 71.32.156.208

Alien saucers landed in my back yard and when one came out with the secrets to the universe I shot him, he was dragged back into the biggest saucer and then they left.


Republican party has used this fear thing for years

This response submitted by jim Burnside on 7/9/06 at 10:53 PM. ( ) 63.17.233.151

The Republican party has managed to use this fear stragedy for several years to try and sway votes their way . Carl Rove has mastered this and with the help of his allies at Fox news has been able to get the fear passed on to Americans and convince them to beleive all this junk . It has worked very well especially with the less intelligent and those that have been blinded by their love for George W. , who never does any wrong in their eyes .
When things really look bad in Iraq , they start calling the war , a war against terror , when actually the war in Iraq has fueled the terrorists and made them hate America more .
They call all who say they are Democrats , sinners bound for Hell , gun grabbers out to take your guns and hunting rights away , for gay marriage , for abortion , just to name a few of all the bad things that the likes of crazy Ann Coulter likes to spew from her poisonous mouth everyday .
The good thing about it all is that more and more Americans are waking up and realizing that they have been lied to and deceived by the likes of Bush , Cheney, and Rove . Thats why the low approval rating has Bush at barely 29% and Republicans running scared all across this great Country of ours , its is election year for many and they know they are in serious trouble .
I have been a Taxidermist since 1964 and have lived to hunt since I was big enought to carry a gun , and I realized at a very early age that there is a God that not only created mankind , but also all the beautiful and intriguing nature world and this has helped me through many rough times in my life . This is why it disturbs me to see politians lie like they do about the Christian issue , as well as the gun and other issues and yes I know they are playing it down but the global warming issue is very serious and saddly Bush has us so involved in his Iraq war that he has no time to even think about things that concern us here at home ,such as the global warming issue , homeland security , and health care just to name a few .
These are just a few of my thoughts and I realize they don't amount to much . Have a good day ... Jim Burnside


Jim Burnsides

This response submitted by Lou on 7/10/06 at 7:24 AM. ( ) 70.16.124.150

article on how the Bushies have used fear to distract the American people from the real problems that face this country. It proves that there are some who use this web-site who don't drink from the well of fear.

Good article Jim !!


Hey, Jim Burnside

This response submitted by Craig on 7/10/06 at 7:51 AM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

How can you be so naive to actually believe what you just posted above? Do you not realize that they all want our guns and the leaders in the forefront of this battle are mostly Demoncrats or those that decided to get on board with the Republican party so they could be elected like that bastard RINO Mayor in NYC?

I think both parties are EVIL and the POWER and GREED that each and every one of these politicians seeks has the stinking smell of TYRANNY against the American People. I simply choose to select the LESSER OF TWO EVILS when I vote. It is nice to know what side you and Cecil are on though, lol. See, here in NY the Democrat Leadership is poison to the progun movement but some Rhino Republicans are also adding fertilizer to that poison seed. In some areas of NY we will never see Republican leadership but I would settle for a progun Democrat if we could find one to fill those much needed shoes and I would press the lever in his/her favor every time over a gun grabbing Republican.

Without the 2nd Amendment we won't have any of the others, albeit those other God-Given Rights are slowly getting torn apart and aren't worth as much as they used to be. When our guns are gone I will know who to thank within this group of my peers.

The Gay Marriage issue was on several states ballots this past election and guess what, Jim, none of those initiatives passed into law. That wasn't the fault of the Republican party, it was the voice of the PEOPLE of this great country they call America.

As far as the War on Terror...God only knows why this all happened and if you believe in him then you know you have no control over the destiny of this mortal world. I truly believe it was God's doing that we are even in this country right now and George Bush didn't have a whole lot to do with it. Think back on the votes in Congress to do this thing and you might just realize it wasn't just the Republican War Machine that was totally responsible for this action. JMHO

Have a good day.


That's a great post Jim

This response submitted by Jim on 7/10/06 at 8:30 AM. ( ) 216.109.204.225

You commentary is right on the money. Just thought I'd give you some support before the republican pit bulls(Let by Capt. BLOW HOLE) come on and hammer you with their ridicule/insult routine.


Craig

This response submitted by Lou on 7/10/06 at 10:03 AM. ( ) 70.16.124.150

and his ilk just don't and never will get it! They are the ones who are feeding and drinking the same pablum that that lesbo Ann Coulter ingests.

They don't wish to see or discus $3.00 a gallon gas prices, a stock market that has been dormant since the cowboys took over, a dying social security system, porous borders, loss of manufacturing jobs, and bin-laden still producing tapes, and a civil war in Iraq, and an administration hell bent on bringing about Armagedon. Did I forget anything ?

Oh yes, these are the accomplishments that the Bushies are proud of and while they worship at his altar of these two buffoons ( bush/ cheyney) they are losing their country but hey we've got Sadam locked up.


Lou, if Ann Coulter is lesbian, what does that make you?

This response submitted by George on 7/10/06 at 11:28 AM. ( ) 205.188.117.69

Jim-Bob is back and I see you guys have a regular feeding frenzy going on here. Now if we're "Bushies", do we have to think up a name for you or do you already have one? Whose alter are you "worshiping at"? Lenin? Ann must have struck a nerve with you. Liberals suffer that malady when struck by the truth. Now tell us how you feel about the Democrats working towards reparations for slaves. That's not one you can hang on the conservatives any longer any more than you can about the Dems voting to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.


What ?

This response submitted by Alex Sr on 7/10/06 at 1:14 PM. ( ) 66.32.123.163

Americans are not suppose to be afraid ?

We are fighting a looney tunes called Islam, who blew up the towers ,they threaten to destroy America.
Then Another Looney in Korea is trying to reach US mainland with Rockets that can carry Nukes.
Then Our friend Chavez in Venezuela is trying to get nukes from N> KOrea also calling for the destruction of the USA.

Castro is talking about operation Hatuey, to Bomb the turkey Point Power plant in Miami.
And we are not to be afraid ?


And how they turn the table !

This response submitted by Kevin M. on 7/10/06 at 1:41 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.71

And for how many years did you Clintonites or Kenedy lovers. What ever perverts or drunks you follow. Try to tell the elderly that they were going to go without food or medicine if they didn't follow the DEMMIES. Is that not a scare tactic?
And guess who put through a medical plan for the elderly and disabled. Well let me see ? OH George W. Bushy.


Please tell me it isn't true!

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 7/10/06 at 2:27 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.17

Ann Coulter is a lesbian? I fantasized about doing the horizontal mamba with her with a paperbag over her head! I bet she'd be one hell of a screamer with some very sexy colorful expletives! Whew Hew!

Nice hair, nice legs, but God is she ugly and a nasty mouth to match it!


Now Cecil...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/10/06 at 8:54 PM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

I can see you haven't changed a bit. Still name calling and degrading people whom you don't like. Almost childish in its form. Speaking of children some do visit this site you moron! Why would you come on a public forum and call anybody ugly or get so explicite about other personal issues? Does it make you feel better about yourself? I thought things were going so well in this category then that name Cecil popped up again. So much for that promise to NEVER come back to this category again.

Alex Sr., You just about spelled it out for them demmies in about as simple terms as it gets. Thanks for doing that for them.


My my Craig

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 7/10/06 at 11:08 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.17

Funny a few months ago you begged me to come back. And there were your repeated comments "I knew you'd come back!" Now you're mad I'm back. I'd say you have a few issues to deal with.

If you really must know I wouldn't touch Ann with a ten foot pole. And I'm not talking about here looks. She's hateful and spiteful and making a lot of money doing it suckering in a lot of people. I find that disgusting. I see now she's been exposed as a plagerizer (sp?) too.


Oh btw things were really going well before I popped up?

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 7/10/06 at 11:09 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.17

Oh really now? ROFLMAO


Republicans

This response submitted by Nat on 7/11/06 at 4:50 AM. ( ) 205.188.117.69

May bring fear but Democratic leadership would be pure terror.


Well unfortunately Nate

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 7/11/06 at 7:41 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.17

Thanks to the poor leadership of the repubs the last 6 years we may be in for some "terror." I honestly don't see how they could do any worse.

Actually historically we've had more "terror" during the reign of the repubs.


I'll let you know how much worse it can be...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/11/06 at 8:21 AM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

when Demoncrat Elliot Spitzer is elected Governor of NY and his gun grabbing Demoncrat buddy Andrew Cuomo is elected Attorney General of this screwed up state. Apparently, even here we can't get republican leadership that is worth a crap and many candidates are allowed to simply say they are republican to get the republican endorsement.

As for you coming back Cecil...it's a free country and even moreso on this website, so with that stated, welcome back. Please try to follow the rules this time and keep it civil, lol. We're taking bets on how long you continue this time before you cry fowl and bail out again. Since you are looking for a third party I can only assume you will no longer defend the Clintons as they aren't part of a third party, unless you consider them viable candidates for the socialist party of America.


Please try and follow the rules Craig?

This response submitted by Cecil Baird on 7/11/06 at 9:50 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.17

Why are you singling me out? Are you blind and you made you the moderator anyway?


Far from being the moderator...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/11/06 at 3:11 PM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

but if I was I would have blocked your IP address a long, long time ago. You just don't know how to play nice in this sandbox. Like I said, it's a free site so enjoy it.


Oh brother!

This response submitted by Jim on 7/11/06 at 6:30 PM. ( ) 216.109.204.225

"You just don't know how to play nice in this sandbox." Maybe you'd like to change that to LITTER box? If you take the ridicule, name-calling, and insults out of these threads they would shrink like bush's approval ratings. Fact is, some guys have to have a skin as thick as rhino hide to withstand to mean-spirited verbal assaults they are sometimes subjected to. And would you like to share with us why "I would have blocked your IP address a long, long time ago."?


Where is Captain Blowhole?

This response submitted by Laughing out loud on 7/11/06 at 6:34 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

I am sure him and his sidekick will show up soon to gather their tribe!

LOL


I see your liberal...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/11/06 at 7:41 PM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

followers are waking up, Cecil. I see I was wrong about your coming home. We finally got some interesting stuff going on here. Hey Jim, when the stones begin to fly I shoot back as it is a basic defensive instinct. Nothing mean spirited is ever meant by it...?


Quit quoting me Craig

This response submitted by Jim on 7/11/06 at 9:50 PM. ( ) 216.109.204.225

"...when the stones begin to fly I shoot back as it is a basic defensive instinct. Nothing mean spirited is ever meant by it...?"
The "stones" usually start with a C&P (Cut and PILE) by your little dittohead buddy...whatever he's calling himself this month.
And like a typical conservative, you negelected to answer the question.


No, Jim...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/12/06 at 10:30 AM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

I simply disregarded the question like any typical conservative therefore I didn't need to answer it. If that makes me a typical conservative then I guess there are no secrets here.

Here's one for you to disregard...

When Brad (who I have never met so I don't include him in my long list of friends) posts something it is a bunch of crap (I'm assuming that's where you got the analogy of the litter box) but when some liberal whiner posts something everyone is supposed to accept it as the gospel truth. Sorry, I meant to say undisputed scientific proof based on Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Why should it be any different for us conservatives to think of you socialist liberals with the same disrespect you direct towards us?


Correct!

This response submitted by Jim on 7/12/06 at 3:00 PM. ( ) 216.109.204.225

"I simply disregarded the question like any typical conservative therefore I didn't need to answer it." How true. Issues and questions are almost always disregarded and immediately replaced with ridicule, insults, and name-calling. That seems to be the standard conservative way to debate. I invite you to compile a PILE of C&P by...whatever he calls himself this month... from the archives. He spends his life digging up anything he can that mocks and ridicules "democraps" as he calls them. He's not about to get carte blanche on contempt for others, and we all know that silence is tacit approval. When his crap gets a rebuttal, the war of words starts. How did our profession get so lucky(cursed!) to have a dork who just won't give his hate for half of America a rest? If he would STFU a lot of the verbal anger on the forum would subside. Even some of his conservative comrades are distancing themsselves from him and his BS.
Check the archives. I am well aware that most of the postings on here are partisan political opinions. Very little would qualify as ANY kind of "truth"...gospel or scientific. We see the very same facts from opposite points of view. That doesn't make anyone a stupid, moron, idiot, etc. It just means we don't see eye-to-eye. Unless of course, you are one of those who insists that his opinions ARE facts.


All I know is the true conservatives...

This response submitted by Craig on 7/13/06 at 12:17 AM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

believe in smaller government and less control of the people. They believe in inspiring with tax cuts and breaks for small businesses not enabling with free handouts. They believe that guns in the hands of law abiding citizens curb crime rates. They believe no more gun laws need to be passed that infringe on the rights of the law-abiding citizen and many should be repealed as they do nothing to curb crime but deter the common man or woman from owning or carrying one for self preservation.

Unfortunately, the liberal left, the majority of them demoncrats, don't feel this same way. That is fact! Which is why I choose the side I choose.

I won't even get into the Iraq war controversy, the gay marriage issue, the subject of roe v wade, the illegal immigrant issue, drilling for oil in Alaska, building more gasoline refineries here in the US, or any one of the hundreds of other subjects that make no friggin sense to me, unlike they apparently do to the demoncrats. When the truth be told neither party is really that great right now in our time in history, but I will take the lesser of two evils any day over more government control or gun control. See, I live in NY where I pay as much to register a recreational 4 wheeler ATV for a year (a vehicle that has severe limitations on where I can ride it) as I do for my Ford Explorer that I can drive on any road in the state. We have so many gun laws or restrictive places that are gun free zones that many don't even carry their guns for fear of losing the privilege if caught. (I hope no criminals are reading this)The democrats would rather reintroduce criminals back into our society here hoping they learn to live a prosperous life while creating another tax burdon program that teaches them how to do just that rather than just keep them locked up because they have already proven they are a detriment to society. The criminals win, the law-abiding lose. 8 homocides in Rochester alone last week, even with the gun free zones and strict gun laws. The democrat mayor of that city even threatened calling in the National Guard to keep the peace but he will say he doesn't believe in using the NG for border security because all of them are in Iraq fighting a worthless war. That's what happens in a democrat controlled state. We all knows what happens in a Democrat controlled presidency.


Yeah OK Jimbob

This response submitted by DaveT on 7/13/06 at 6:28 PM. ( ) 24.32.84.11

Here is some of your so called tolerance for other opinions post. Not only do you like to criticize and put folks down while hiding behind your keyboard, your integrity is seriously lacking as well. The following post are what I found in just two days:

Capt Blow Hole; Too bad you were unable to determine the purpose of the post. Neither did Alex. The aknowledgement that global warming exists is not confined to "liberals" as you would have readers think, and neither are the international efforts to deal with it. The scientific debate about whether global warrming is occurring is over except in the minds of people like you with political or economic agendas. Don't you think that congregations are a mix of liberals and conservatives? Ours is. There was NO mention of political affiliation in the article. Diverting the issue to a ridicule of liberals was disappointing...but not a surprise. And you are mistaken once again. I posted NOTHING about carbon dating. If someone else did, good for them. Of course to YOU, carbon dating is probably just more "junk science."

marsicko, you really do earn that title "gestapo catholic" don't you? Your mean mouth indicates that your partisan politics precedes your religion. Why else would a self proclaimed Christian be so hateful towards others(liberals)? You sure didn't learn that in the bible now DID YOU?

OH...Capt. Blow Hole. If it makes you feel better..God bless the NON STEWARDS of the warming earth too. That would unclude all of you pompous AS...all of you gentlemen!(LOL)


You BELIEVE what they found is Noan's Ark.
This response submitted by Jim on 7/5/06 at 7:49 AM. ( ) 65.183.171.197
The fact that the article was written by a religious organization(That BELIEVES an ark exists) casts doubt on it's validity right off of the bat.
"Some of America's leading businessmen, an attorney who has argued several cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and two leading apologists believed the evidence was compelling enough that they made a daring trip to the politically volatile state of Iran and climbed a harsh mountain to see the object firsthand." Wow! Men with credentials like that hardly qualify as geologists, paleontologists, and archaeologists. An article like this, referenced as it is, is exactly why skepticism exists.

Where is the scientific validation of this find?
This response submitted by Jim on 7/5/06 at 7:32 PM. ( ) 65.183.171.197
Before this thread veers WAY OFF of the issue(Is what was found an ark/boat?), I'd like to mention that a SCIENTIFIC evaluation of the find is something all of us SHOULD welcome. There are people who are trained professionals who dedicate their lives to the study of ancient relics. The reservation I have is based on the apparently UNQUALIFIED individuals who made the discovery and interpreted it's origin. If there is anyone foolish enough to accept the OPINION of businessmen, lawyers, and an APOLOGIST(LMAO!) about the origin of ancient relics, well...I can probably interest the same guys in buyng some ocean front property in Kentucky.
George,your comment reveal you are an idiot
This response submitted by Jim on 7/1/06 at 10:25 AM. ( ) 24.117.56.137
For you so - called conservatives to be so spiritualy and morally motivated, you all really like the idea of people dying, as long as it is not you.I was just curious if any of you go to church and laugh about people dying. Those damn liberals don't want anybody to die, do they? They think we should leave Iraq just because over 2500 of our young men and women, with families, have died and countless more have been severely injured for a war based on lies. They think the economy is bad. They think gas is too high. Those liberals should all drown, shouldn't the George.By the way is your last name Bush?


Thanks for taking the time

This response submitted by Jim on 7/13/06 at 7:10 PM. ( ) 216.109.204.225

to quote me daveyBOY. You might want to apologize(NAW!)because you've quoted from two different people and attributed both to me.
I defend good Americans who have a right to express their opinions on this forum without ridicule and insults. I also fight fire with fire. Since this gets under your skin so bad daveyBOY, why don't you go back and quote who INSTIGATED the exchanges? NONE started from me! They invariably start with an inflamatory post by the queen of C&P(disrespect intended) or some other right wing RADICAL who has little or no respect for democrats, liberals, homosexuals, blacks, muslims, hispanics, environmentalists,etc...to include any non-WASPs. They start the name-calling and ridicule and then crawl out of the mire and cry FOUL PLAY when they get a blunt reply! Well, if they dish it out they had better be prepared to take it. It's probably no way to settle anything, but sometimes it just feels good to fight back. Radicals will NOT get carte blanche to spew hate and ridicule on here without getting a strong response. If the right wing extremists instigating these inflamatory threads would STFU things would settle down. I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.


Well Jimbob

This response submitted by DaveT on 7/13/06 at 10:11 PM. ( ) 24.32.84.11

if you want to defend yourself you do the work. I just call it like I see it and you ain't pulling no wool over my eyes. You are what your words in the archives show.. someone who consistently takes pot shots a folks on here and then coward from standing up to your comments. Your insults of George Roof are disgusting, your cowardice of hiding behind a computer while doing so is pathetic. So deal with it

Dave Toms


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