Islam is The Antichrist's religion

Submitted by ALEX ,SR on 8/1/06 at 3:50 PM. ( ) 66.32.121.134

ISLAM: THE RELIGION OF ANTI-CHRIST
Qur'an 6:102 Wonderful originator of the heavens and the earth! How could he have a son when he has no consort? And he created everything and he is the knower of all things.

Note: Islam lacks spiritual depth by saying the Son of God would need a mother of God.

Psalm 2:7 "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, today I have begotten You.'"

Psalm 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish in the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.

Note: Mo-ham-mad called the Old Testament Psalmist a liar.

Qur'an 10:68 They say: Allah has taken a son (to himself). Glory be to him! He is the self-sufficient. His is what is in the heavens and what is in the earth. You have no authority for this. Say you against Allah what you know not?

Note: Islam denies the Christian message of salvation through the Son of God.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

John 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Note: Mo-ham-mad called John and Jesus Christ liars.

Qur'an 18:4-5 And warn those who say: Allah has taken to himself a son. They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grievous is the word that comes out of their mouths. They speak nothing but a lie.

Note: Islam lacks the confession of the Son leading to eternal life with the Father.

Matthew 16:16-17 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven."

Note: Mo-ham-mad called Matthew, Peter, and Jesus Christ liars.

Qur'an 19:88-89 And they say: the beneficent has taken to himself a son. Certainly you make an abominable assertion!

Note: Islam has a satanic witness of hate for Jesus Christ the Son of God.

1 John 5:5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son.

Note: Mo-ham-mad called God the Father a liar.

Qur'an 23:91 Allah has not taken to Himself a son, nor is there with him any (other) god - in that case would each god have taken away what he created, and some of them would have over-powered others.

Note: Islam equates the Trinity with the mythological gods of the Greeks and Hindus.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

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In a related story

This response submitted by J Best on 8/1/06 at 4:19 PM. ( ) 207.118.200.252

A new movie is set to be released in Hollywood titled:

"The Passion of the Over-Served"


Prophet Alex SR

This response submitted by GUNNY on 8/1/06 at 4:31 PM. ( ) 71.227.204.246

Would not every religion on this planet, besides yours[christian extremist],be also classified as an Anti Christ religion? What should we do? Maybe you should start a complete Genocide. Help rid this world of all these sinners. A new hobby would not hurt you a bit.


About the Bible and the TRUTH it Teaches...

This response submitted by Kim on 8/1/06 at 4:48 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121


Why not do as a chief justice of the United States Supreme Court did? In the same way that he tried cases in court, he impartially investigated the evidence for and against the truthfulness of the Bible. With what result? He said: "I have come to the decision that the Bible is a supernatural book, that it has come from God."


Can YOU or any "other" religion as mentioned above, say the same about your beliefs and what they are based on?


What other

This response submitted by Rick on 8/1/06 at 5:57 PM. ( ) 68.194.147.105

religion says to kill all who don't believe, to commit suicide, to beat women. Sounds like things the devil wants.


>About Islam and several other "teachings"<

This response submitted by You know who on 8/1/06 at 6:03 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

Islam: The teachings of man, not of the true GOD. IT IS trouble in a very deep way! You don't need a degree to know this; only common sense and a little homework. Need I say more?


This is exactly why they are killing each other

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 8/1/06 at 7:02 PM. ( ) 64.184.42.86

in the middle east: My relgion or my nationality is the right one and yours is not, so I despise you and want to kill you. Is this really what Christ taught us?

I agree with Gunny. You need to get another hobby Alex. If this is how you believe and you want me to believe, I want no part of it.


When God led the Israelites into the Land of Caanan...

This response submitted by Craig on 8/1/06 at 9:14 PM. ( ) 66.66.236.195

he instructed them to kill all the people of that land because they were idol worshippers and sinners. That included woman and children. He wanted them erradicated from the face of the Earth. They couldn't bring themselves to do as God commanded so now we have this ever growing world problem. Do you think God might have known his followers couldn't or wouldn't perform this task and could that be the reason so much history and/or claims of future happenings dealing with this Middle East area are so prophesied and referred to in the Bible?


Some of you

This response submitted by DaveT on 8/1/06 at 9:30 PM. ( ) 24.32.84.11

Will get a chance to argure your point in front of God. The truth is that there is ONLY one name on earth or in Heaven by which men can be saved and that name is Jesus. You are not going to get around that. The good news is that salvation is open tall all men... but they have to accept it.

DaveT


Whatever Dave

This response submitted by Cecil on 8/1/06 at 10:19 PM. ( ) 64.184.42.86

just remember it's not your place to judge me.


2 Peter 3:3

This response submitted by Rich B. on 8/1/06 at 10:47 PM. ( ) 74.65.18.69

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,"


Hey,Bible bumpers

This response submitted by GUNNY on 8/1/06 at 11:28 PM. ( ) 71.227.204.246

Just curious on your believes,so would you say that everybody that believes in Judaism,Buddhism,Peganism,and of course that are muslims are all going to burn in hell?[because of course they do not believe in christ]Heaven forbid you are at the bottom of the pecking order. If you want to get down to it,you are the new kids on the block.Come on fill me full of of some of your insightful scripters.You[Mel Gibson]bigots.


First, about Mel than WHAT does "Antichrist" Mean?

This response submitted by KIM (LOL) on 8/1/06 at 11:42 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

A note about Mel Gibson: If the "average" person pulled such a stunt, they would of been taken to jail, went to court, paid a fine and that would of been the end of it. This whole situation about Mel Gibson is blown way, way out of proportion. Someone has an agenda and I hope most of you "fine" people can see past all of this media BS. ----KIM
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Now to answer the ANTICHRIST question.

Antichrist

Definition: Antichrist means against or instead of Christ. The term applies to all who deny what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, all who oppose his Kingdom, and all who mistreat his followers. It also includes individuals, organizations, and nations that falsely claim to represent Christ or that improperly ascribe to themselves the role of Messiah.

Does the Bible refer to only one antichrist?

1 John 2:18: "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.)

2 John 7: "Many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.) (Notice that the "many antichrists) of 1 John 2:18 are here referred to collectively as "the antichrist.))

Is the coming of the antichrist reserved for some future time?

1 John 4:3: "Every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist's inspired expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.) (That was written near the end of the first century C.E.)

1 John 2:18: "Even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.) (By "last hour) John evidently meant the end of the apostolic period. The other apostles had died, and John himself was very old.)

Some of those identified as antichrist—

Persons who deny that Jesus is truly the Messiah

1 John 2:22: "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ [or, Messiah, anointed one]? This is the antichrist.)

All who deny that Jesus is the unique Son of God

1 John 2:22: "This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.)

Compare John 10:36; Luke 9:35.

Apostates

1 John 2:18, 19: "There have come to be many antichrists . . . They went out from us, but they were not of our sort.)

Those who oppose Christ's true followers

John 15:20, 21: "If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also . . . But they will do all these things against you on account of my name.)

Individuals and nations that oppose Christ as King or that themselves falsely claim the Messianic role

Ps. 2:2: "The kings of earth take their stand and high officials themselves have massed together as one against GOD "Jehovah" and against his anointed one [Christ, or Messiah].)

See also Revelation 17:3, 12-14; 19:11-21.

Matt. 24:24: "False Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.)

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Well now, this concludes our lesson for today!---KIM... LOL


Gunny

This response submitted by Don on 8/2/06 at 1:08 AM. ( ) 69.212.188.195

Gunny, are you a marine? What if you are wrong? Are you tough enough to spend eternity in hell? These are questions you need to ask yourself, because if you do not come to youe senses you are garanteed to find out if you are "tough enough".


Gunny (and others of like mind)...

This response submitted by Terry on 8/2/06 at 5:12 AM. ( go_tigers90@yahoo.com ) 64.74.176.3

First of all, I do not know you. I do not believe we have ever "conversed" as it were. I would guess we do share a few things in common (taxidermy perhaps? Any chance you're a Chiefs fan? Sorry... got football on the brain). I do not wish you ill in any way shape or form. Quite the opposite... I hope you are enjoying a very happy life filled with blessing. That said, I have to disagree with some of the things you posted above, in replying to Alex (someone else I do not know...lol). Let me share what and why. You're welcome to read or not read, as you wish.

First, there's nothing extreme about Alex's position. It's Christian, plain and simple- not extreme Christianity.

Second, with regards to other religions being Anti-Christ. Well, yeah... that's a given, isn't it? Either you're a part of the problem or a part of the solution. I guess to paraphrase that, either you truly, sincerely believe Jesus Christ was the son of God and our salvation is in Him... or you don't. It's really pretty simple. Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc; do not believe that to be the case so you could say they are Anti-Christ (or an anti-Christian religion).

Third, regarding "genocide (your word) and getting rid of sinners". Well, first off, we are ALL sinners- Christians included- so that would get rid of a whole lot of people. Second, dealing with sinners- be they believers or non-believers- is something that belongs to God and God alone, not those of us here on earth.

Fourth (and lastly), being a Christian is not a hobby. It's a life choice: choosing to give your life to Christ and then living that life- each and every day- for the living God. A hobby is something you can put down and walk away from. And can you walk away from God? Sure... He gave us free choice. But the consequences are quite clear. In Second Peter scripture tells us that it would be better to not know Christ at all than to come to know Him and turn one's back on Him, returning to worldly ways.

Gunny (and others who post in a similar fashion)... I really genuinely wish you well. I am sure that there are some very, very good people who post on here who haven't accepted Christ yet. I have some very good friends who fit that description. If you want to choose not to accept the truth of what scripture says, more power to you. But you also need to come to terms that you will be explaining it to a much higher power someday as well.

To one and all... Have a terrific Wednesday! :-)


Terry

This response submitted by GUNNY on 8/2/06 at 8:55 AM. ( ) 71.227.204.246

Thank You,You have a nice day to.


Guess what

This response submitted by Michael Sestak on 8/2/06 at 9:30 AM. ( ) 24.49.203.34

Christ is from the Middle East, that area is supposed to be the Holy Land.
they have been at each others throats forever, we are not going to change them.
every country that has accepted God and His Son Jesus Christ, has been peaceful.
America is starting to turn extremely violent because we as a whole are turning our backs on God.


Gunny

This response submitted by Alex on 8/2/06 at 12:02 PM. ( ) 66.32.121.134

Your Question:

Just curious on your believes,so would you say that everybody that believes in Judaism,Buddhism,Peganism,and of course that are muslims are all going to burn in hell?[because of course they do not believe in christ]Heaven forbid you are at the bottom of the pecking order. If you want to get down to it,you are the new kids on the block.Come on fill me full of of some of your insightful scripters.You[Mel Gibson]bigots.

I know Jews are saved because they still hold an eternal covenant with Yahwev and since Yahwev is Jesus (Yeshua)in the flesh , then he is the savior of both Jews and Christians, Buddhist do not believe in teh God of the Bible and pagans are none believers as well.


What?

This response submitted by Kim LOL on 8/2/06 at 2:50 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

GEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!

Basic Bible Study 101...

Will post later. Gotta work for now.


Who is Jesus Christ and who is the only TRUE GOD?

This response submitted by Kim on 8/2/06 at 5:01 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

JESUS often prayed to God, whom he called Father, and he also taught others to do so. (Matthew 6:9-11; Luke 11:1, 2) In prayer with his apostles—only hours before his death—Jesus petitioned: "Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you. This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.)—John 17:1, 3.

Notice that Jesus prays to One whom he calls "the only true God.) He points to God's superior position when he continues: "So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.) (John 17:5) Since Jesus prayed to God requesting to be alongside God, how could Jesus at the same time be "the only true God)? Let us examine this matter.

Jesus' Position in Heaven
A few hours after this prayer, Jesus was executed. But he was not dead for long—only from Friday afternoon till Sunday morning. (Matthew 27:57-28:6) "This Jesus God resurrected,) the apostle Peter reports, "of which fact we are all witnesses.) (Acts 2:31, 32) Could Jesus have resurrected himself? No, according to the Bible, the dead "are conscious of nothing at all.) (Ecclesiastes 9:5) "The only true God,) Jesus' heavenly Father, resurrected his Son.—Acts 2:32; 10:40.

A short time afterward, Jesus' disciple Stephen was killed by religious persecutors. As they were about to stone him, Stephen was granted a vision. He stated: "Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God's right hand.) (Acts 7:56) Jesus, "the Son of man,) was thus seen by Stephen in a role supportive to God in heaven—"at God's right hand)—even as he had been ‘alongside God' before he came to earth.—John 17:5.

Later, after Stephen's execution, Jesus made a miraculous appearance to Saul, better known by his Roman name, Paul. (Acts 9:3-6) When Paul was in Athens, Greece, he spoke of "the God that made the world and all the things in it.) He said that this God, the "only true God,) will "judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has furnished a guarantee to all men in that he has resurrected him from the dead.) (Acts 17:24, 31) Here the apostle Paul described Jesus as "a man)—yes, lesser than God—whom God had restored to life in heaven.

The apostle John too described Jesus as subordinate to God. John said that he had written his Gospel so that readers might come to believe that "Jesus is the Christ the Son of God)—not that he was God. (John 20:31) John also received a heavenly vision in which he saw "the Lamb,) who in his Gospel is identified as Jesus. (John 1:29) The Lamb is standing with 144,000 others, who John says "have been bought [or resurrected] from the earth.) John explains that the 144,000 have the Lamb's "name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.)—Revelation 14:1, 3.

Could "the Lamb) be the same as "his Father)? Clearly not. In the Bible they are distinct. They even have different names.

Name of the Lamb and of the Father
As we have just seen, the name given to God's Son, the Lamb, is Jesus. (Luke 1:30-32) What about his Father's name? It appears in the Bible thousands of times. For example, Psalm 83:18 says: "You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.) Sadly, God's name, Jehovah, has been replaced in many Bible translations by the terms "LORD) and "GOD,) often spelled in all capital letters. The capitals are supposed to distinguish Jehovah from others called gods or lords.* Yet, in many Bible translations, the Divine Name has been restored to its rightful place.

The English-language American Standard Version (1901) is a notable example of a Bible translation that has restored God's name, Jehovah, to its rightful place. Its preface observes: "The American Revisers, after a careful consideration, were brought to the unanimous conviction that a Jewish superstition, which regarded the Divine Name as too sacred to be uttered, ought no longer to dominate in the English or any other version of the Old Testament, as it fortunately does not in the numerous versions made by modern missionaries.)

The Trinity—Whose Teaching?
What, then, about the teaching that Jehovah and Jesus are, in effect, the same God, as the Trinity doctrine proclaims? In its issue of April-June 1999, The Living Pulpit magazine defined the Trinity this way: "There is one God and Father, one Lord Jesus Christ, and one Holy Spirit, three ‘persons' . . . who are the same or one in essence . . . ; three persons equally God, possessing the same natural properties, yet really distinct, known by their personal characteristics.)#

Where did this complex Trinity teaching originate? The Christian Century, in its May 20-27, 1998, issue, quotes a pastor who acknowledges that the Trinity is "a teaching of the church rather than a teaching of Jesus.) Even though the Trinity is not a teaching of Jesus, is it consistent with what he taught?

The Father—Superior to the Son
Jesus taught his disciples to pray: "Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.) Our heavenly Father, whose name is Jehovah, is described in the Bible as being superior to his Son. For example, Jehovah is "from everlasting to everlasting.) But the Bible says that Jesus is "the firstborn of every creature.) That Jehovah is greater than Jesus, Jesus himself taught when he said: "My Father is greater than I.) (Matthew 6:9; Psalm 90:1, 2; Colossians 1:15; John 14:28, King James Version) Yet, the Trinity doctrine holds that the Father and the Son are "equally God.)

The Father's superiority over the Son, as well as the fact that the Father is a separate person, is highlighted also in the prayers of Jesus, such as the one before his execution: "Father, if you wish, remove this cup [that is, an ignominious death] from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.) (Luke 22:42) If God and Jesus are "one in essence,) as the Trinity doctrine says, how could Jesus' will, or wish, seem different from that of his Father?—Hebrews 5:7, 8; 9:24.

Furthermore, if Jehovah and Jesus were the same, how could one of them be aware of things of which the other was not? Jesus, for instance, said regarding the time of the world's judgment: "Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.)—Mark 13:32.

The Trinity and the Church
The Trinity is not a teaching of Jesus or of the early Christians. As noted previously, it is "a teaching of the church.) In its 1999 issue on the Trinity, The Living Pulpit observed: "Sometimes, it seems that everyone assumes that the doctrine of the trinity is standard Christian theological fare,) but it added that it is not "a biblical idea.)

The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967) discusses the Trinity at length and admits: "The Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.)

Martin Werner, as professor at the University of Bern, Switzerland, observed: "Wherever in the New Testament the relationship of Jesus to God, the Father, is brought into consideration, whether with reference to his appearance as a man or to his Messianic status, it is conceived of and represented categorically as subordination.) Clearly, what Jesus and the early Christians believed is far different from the Trinity teaching of churches today. From where, then, did this teaching come?

The Trinity's Early Origins
The Bible tells of many gods and goddesses that people worshiped, including Ashtoreth, Milcom, Chemosh, and Molech. (1 Kings 11:1, 2, 5, 7) Even many people in the ancient nation of Israel once believed that Baal was the true God. So Jehovah's prophet Elijah presented the challenge: "If Jehovah is the true God, go following him; but if Baal is, go following him.)—1 Kings 18:21.

The worship of pagan gods grouped in threes, or triads, was also common before Jesus was born. "From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity,) observed historian Will Durant. In the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: "In Indian religion, e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of Brahma, Siva, and Visnu; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus.)

So there are many gods. Did early Christians acknowledge this? And did they view Jesus as Almighty God?


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* See, for example, Psalm 110:1 in the King James Version. Both Jesus and Peter quoted this verse.—Matthew 22:42-45; Acts 2:34-36.

# The Athanasian Creed, formulated a few hundred years after the death of Jesus, defined the Trinity this way: "The Father is God: the Son is God: and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods: but one God.)


WHEN the apostle Paul healed a lame man in Lystra, the people shouted: "The gods have become like humans and have come down to us!) Paul they called Hermes, and his companion Barnabas, Zeus. (Acts 14:8-14) In Ephesus the silversmith Demetrius warned that if Paul was allowed to continue to preach, ‘the temple of the great goddess Artemis would be esteemed as nothing.'—Acts 19:24-28.

People in the first century—like many today—worshiped "those who are called ‘gods,' whether in heaven or on earth.) Paul, in fact, said: "There are many ‘gods' and many ‘lords'.) However, he also explained: "There is actually to us one God the Father,) and "there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.)—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.

The people of Lystra were inclined to call Paul and Barnabas gods
Was Jesus Also Called God?
Although Jesus never claimed to be God, as Jehovah's appointed ruler he is identified in Isaiah's prophecy by the terms "Mighty God) and "Prince of Peace.) Isaiah's prophecy adds: "To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end.) (Isaiah 9:6, 7) So, as the "Prince)—the son of the Great King, Jehovah—Jesus will serve as Ruler of the heavenly government of "God Almighty.)—Exodus 6:3.

Yet, a person may ask, ‘In what sense is Jesus a "Mighty God,) and didn't the apostle John say that Jesus is himself God?' In the King James version of the Bible, John 1:1 reads: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.) Some argue that this means that "the Word,) who was born on earth as the baby Jesus, is Almighty God himself. Is this true?

If this verse were interpreted to mean Jesus was himself God Almighty, it would contradict the preceding statement, "the Word was with God.) Someone who is "with) another person cannot be the same as that other person. Many Bible translations thus draw a distinction, making clear that the Word was not God Almighty. For example, a sampling of Bible translations say the following: "The Word was a God,) "a god was the Word,) and "the Word was divine.)*

Bible verses that in the Greek language have a construction similar to that of John 1:1 use the expression "a god.) For example, when referring to Herod Agrippa I, the crowds shouted: ‘It is a god speaking.' And when Paul survived a bite by a poisonous snake, the people said: "He is a god.) (Acts 12:22; 28:3-6) It is in harmony with both Greek grammar and Bible teaching to speak of the Word as, not God, but "a god.)—John 1:1.

Consider how John identified "the Word) in the first chapter of his Gospel. "The Word became flesh and resided among us,) he wrote, "and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs [not to God but] to an only-begotten son from a father.) So "the Word,) who became flesh, lived on the earth as the man Jesus and was seen by people. Therefore, he could not have been Almighty God, regarding whom John says: "No man has seen God at any time.)—John 1:14, 18.

‘Why, then,' one may ask, ‘did Thomas exclaim when seeing the resurrected Jesus, "My Lord and my God!)?' As already noted, Jesus is a god in the sense of being divine, but he is not the Father. Jesus had just told Mary Magdalene: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.) Remember, too, why John wrote his Gospel. Three verses after the account about Thomas, John explained that he wrote so that people "may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God)—not that he is God.—John 20:17, 28, 31.

Jesus told Mary Magdalene: ‘I am ascending to my God and your God'
Who Is "the God of This World)?
Clearly, there are many gods. Some, as we have seen, are named in the Bible. Yet, people who saw Jehovah's power long ago exclaimed: "Jehovah is the true God! Jehovah is the true God!) (1 Kings 18:39) Another god, however, also has power. The Bible says: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not.)—2 Corinthians 4:4, King James Version.

The night before his death, Jesus three times warned his disciples about this god, calling him "the ruler of this world.) Jesus said this powerful ruler, or god, "will be cast out.) (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11) Who is this god, and what is the world over which he is the ruler?

He is none other than the rebel angel, Satan the Devil. How do we know? The Bible explains that when Satan tempted Jesus, Satan showed him "all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and he said to him: ‘All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.') (Matthew 4:8, 9) This offer would not have been a temptation at all if Satan had been offering Jesus what Satan did not possess. Indeed, the apostle John declared: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.)—1 John 5:19.

Recall that Jesus promised: "The ruler of this world will be cast out.) (John 12:31) In fact, this world, or system of things, along with its ruler, will be removed, as foretold by the apostle John when he stated: "The world is passing away.) However, John added: "He that does the will of God remains forever.) (1 John 2:17)



What?!

This response submitted by Rich B. on 8/3/06 at 11:20 AM. ( ) 74.65.18.69

Are you a Jehovah's Witness?
If not, then what?

John 14:7 (King James Version)

"If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."

John 14:9 (King James Version)


Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


See "Scriptural Proof That Jesus Christ is God "

This response submitted by Rich B. on 8/3/06 at 1:17 PM. ( ) 74.65.18.69

Kim,
I hate to say it, but I think I smell a wolf in sheep's clothing.


Rich B, you have freedom to choose.

This response submitted by KIM on 8/3/06 at 3:25 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

First of all, you have the freedom to choose what to believe and what not to believe. You than take that choice and freedom you have and go about your life according to your beliefs whether they are based on actual facts, misinterpretations, lies, deceit or whatever. The world has many paths for you to follow...you are taking so much out of context. YOU have to READ everything in the Bible and see how it flows together. If only ONE THING is wrong or a lie in the Bible, than all things are cast in doubt. But, as you may already know, all things have proven true up to this date in time. Of course, you have to study to know this. If not, all of the point—counter point discussion is for nothing.

Second: You miss the points. Many, many times, Jesus states that there is a difference between he who sent him and the Christ. Reread the facts above. Do you not know that Jesus was his father's DIRECT representative on earth? Do you know what the word "BEGOTTON) means? (Forget the modern dictionary as it isn't going to help you). Jesus IS A God. But, there is ONE GREATER than him. What is so hard to understand about that? Again, look at the MANY examples.

You must first study the ancient manuscripts and language and you will know what specific dialect and choice of words used. How many languages do you speak and study that is thousands of years old? Anything that is remotely close to Aramaic or Hebrew? There are so many examples to show that there is a difference. As you truly study, you will prove to yourself that what FACTS stated above from the Bible are accurate. If you pick and choose only what feels comfortable to you so as not to ruffle any feathers so to speak, then you have chosen your path in life that is along side of the world which is under control of the wicked one.

NO person can prove anything to you. YOU as an individual must choose to do your own research and not rely on what this minister, pastor, reverend, priest or any other fancy "titled) person says. IF you are true of heart and desire the "truth), GOD will reveal it to you.

I wish you well in your adventures in life...


Cecil

This response submitted by DaveT on 8/3/06 at 7:58 PM. ( ) 24.32.84.11

I know you have a problem with reading but I did not judge you, I merely quoted scripture. Your words speak for you and like I said you'll have your chance to argue your philosphy with God himself.

DaveT


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