Issue with Epo-Grip

Submitted by Chuck on 3/10/05 at 12:10 PM. ( )

Having some problems with the two-part Epo-Grip hide paste. I love the way it holds so I would like to keep using it but everytime I need it I have to heat up both cans because it kind of dries up to a stiff chalky texture. Cant get it out of the can very well. I heat it for 5 minutes and it turns back to a thick syrup, then I'm able to work with it. Not so much the clear but the cream colored paste.
(not sure what both cans are called). I was told when I bought it that all you have to do is heat it up once and it would stay plyable from then on. Am I doing something wrong or do I just have some bad paste. I keep my shop at around 60 degrees. Any suggestions?

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Chuck, did you follow the instructions on the can?

This response submitted by George on 3/10/05 at 12:40 PM. ( )

It says that you must mix well before ever using. If you're like me, you conveniently ignored that part and loved how soupy the top layers mixed and worked. Then you left the lids off for a couple hours.

Now after you've used all the good syrupy stuff, you're left with the oatmeal at the bottom of the barrel, huh?

First and foremost, you must mix each whole container when you get it. After mixing, the container should only be opened to remove what epoxy you need. That "oatmeal" is actually a filler that makes it so great in applications and it needs to be thoroughly mixed every time.

Next is temperature. Epoxy doesn't work that well below 70 degrees. If you shop is cooler than that, you should store it someplace where it DOESN'T get that cool.

Now, I'd suggest that you call Newton Supply at 1-800-888-2467 and speak to Steve. Tell him you'd like to order a pint of the #30 liquid epoxy. It will come to you in a part A & B container. Mix the A in the paste A and the B in the paste B container until you get the consistency you want. Hold on to the leftovers since, like me, you'll probably forget again and have to redo the whole batch again.


This response submitted by J on 3/10/05 at 5:18 PM. ( )

chuck,many of us have had same problem. in cold weather it just becomes stiff!i switched to ben mears supplys Head Lock also a 2 part epoxy. much easier to use,also ben now has a hide pste that is equal to buckeye supreme and also 1 part. it has a little tint that is nice in thin briskets.

George is right

This response submitted by scott on 3/10/05 at 9:33 PM. ( )

I left mine in the shop one night back in December in which is cool at night and when I went to use on some earliners it was the same way.I use a pellet stove for heat and just set it in front of my stove for a couple minutes and it is workable again.

George is correct.

This response submitted by Erik Steinbring/Epo-Grip on 3/11/05 at 10:51 AM. ( )

The information George has provided is correct.

I will tell you that below 65 degrees all epoxy systems tend to slow down and stiffen up. Even down here in Miami, the raw materials get hard to extract from the drums once the temperature drops below 65. Now add the fillers and thickeners into the equation.

If you are turning off the heat at night, the material is going to be colder than 60 degrees. It is kind of like pulling a piece of meat out of the freezer, it takes a while for it to get to room temperature. The same concept applies here, just because your thermometer says its 60 degrees in your shop, it doesn't necessarily mean the product is 60 degrees too.

We keep posting this solution for those who live in cold climates. It is a simple project and it doesn't cost a lot of money. Find an old refrigerator and store all your adhesives and chemicals inside. Leave all the shelves in place, strip out the coils and install a light bulb and a thermometer. Regulate the temperature to remain at 75-78 degrees. What this will do is keep your chemicals and adhesives in a temperature controlled environment 24 hours a day. It will make the Fire Marshall happy, as all of your flammables will be located in a metal container. Another nice feature is that you can install a hasp and a lock on the door, to keep your children away from these materials. You will benefit from this small project, and two things are going to happen. First, you will get better useage and consistant results out of all your chemicals and adhesives year round. Second, you have made your shop safer.

If you have any questions please don't hesitate to call us at 1-800-888-2467

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