what is your favorite septum to use for competition. ive usually used just speed septums on my commercial mounts. but im gonna be working on a comp mule deer and want to know in YOUR opinion which is the best. also what supply company has it and specific name also, thank you in advance, , and smart ass remarks are very very WELCOME! almost encourage. lol again thank you.
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Judges seem to be more impressed when you cast your own artificial parts. There are several different ways to accomplish the task. Done correctly, it will impress the judge more. Good Luck
the only problem with that right now is i dont have the specimen to do it off of, i just have the cape right now. unless there is a diff way, if so let me know, i saw some inserts in the catologs but not sure what is best, but i would like to hear your ideas on casting my own, i do know how to cast, but dont have the specimen to do so right now. thank you,
I would suggest you use a cast nose. It will give you all of the inner nose detail for competition and, when done properly, gives outstanding results.
Most of the supply houses carry them.
Bob Mead
I use a dremal tool and dremal out the nose from the outside. I then smooth the skin line and create a septom after its dry with pink appoxie sculpt. Once you learn to do this its easy and fast and gets great results. Jack F
thank you guys, ill try both and see what works best for me, again thank you guys.
Cut off the nose. Use a good reference and then file the septum in. Epoxy over what you filed. Reattach.
YOu can add texture with the orange peel like plastic from a milk jug, if you go the apoxie route. Or you could use 5 min apoxie, tint it with flesh, add some fine red thread for veins, and "Mold"it between two sheets of the milk jug plastic. Use clay to make a dam around the epoxy. Good luck.
thank you guys, i never thought about the red thread part, .cool. thanks.and do you mean texture the epoxie work with the plastic off the jug?
If you use Apoxie Sculpt or something similar, wait until it starts to firm up, say and hour or more, before texturing as it is more firm and takes the imprint better. But if you use 5 min. Epoxy, then you just add flesh tint,(use reference for color) to the epoxy when you mix the two parts, and then use a tweezers/toothpick to add small fine red thread to the epoxy. It takes some practice to get it right, but when you do, you'll end up with a translucent flesh septum that has small red veins in it. And when you shine a light through it from the other side it looks good. When I did one recently I used an artificial septum from a Meder flehmen mouth piece as a guide,(to get the shape and size right) but usually I use the real septum from a different deer head and make a mold of it with hot glue. Then if you cut along one edge of the mold to pull out the real septum, you're left with a clam-like mold to put the epoxy in. If you do this, use a cooking spray on the septum and on the cured hot glue,(before you add the 5 min. Epoxy) for a mold release. I also have used alginate to mold the septum and used Smooth Cast 300 to make the cast, it can also be tinted flesh color.
Instead of using a speed septum,(for commercial work) I now use milk jug plastic that I paint flesh color, draw veins on one side with a red sharpie maker, and cover with gloss. It only takes a few minutes and you can't beat the price. Have fun with your septums.
Looked at a live deers septum? Does it have veins in it?
but I never shined a flashlight in a live deer's nose to find out, I must confess. Is there something here I should know?
I remember particularly a deer last fall that had excessive veining in its septum, but then again, it was dead.
Fred Vanderburgh there are none, veins that is. Capillaries yes, veins no. Fred probably knows too.