Bondo Ears

Submitted by Mike on 3/26/05 at 5:32 PM. ( ) 208.193.163.247

Can the Bondo ear method be use for any type of deer ears?

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Yes, i dont recomend it though

This response submitted by J. Cart on 3/26/05 at 6:19 PM. ( ) 68.79.123.168

Bondo is a primative way of doing it. You would be better off getting eply ear liners and using something from McKenzie callerd ead adheasive- McKenzie has thier own, but it takes longer to kick. This is made by wesco. By the way, you have to take out the ear cartelidge. good luck guy.


Yes, and I do recommend it

This response submitted by C A on 3/26/05 at 6:30 PM. ( ) 70.113.34.43

I use the bondo method almost exclusively. Once you become familiar with this method, it is fairly easy and fast. You do really need to learn your ear shapes and use reference photos. I have never been a big fan on ear liners, but that's just my opinion.


They are not thin enough

This response submitted by J. Cart on 3/26/05 at 7:05 PM. ( ) 68.79.123.168

the whole idea of taxidermy is to make something look alive. HOW ADVANCED YOU WANT TO GO WITH YOUR WORK IS UP TO YOU. Thats my opinion.


Also

This response submitted by J.Cart on 3/26/05 at 7:11 PM. ( ) 68.79.123.168

If you are ever going to compete with deer. You better take that cartelidge out. Usually that means using an ear linner. Or you could do like i do, and cast your own by shaving a deer ear and casting it, though that takes practice.


Bondos Good

This response submitted by Steve on 3/26/05 at 7:35 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

Thin it with resin and add some chopped fiberglass. With practice you can get a good looking thin ear. Maybe not comp quality but a very good commercial ear.


geez

This response submitted by mk on 3/26/05 at 10:16 PM. ( ) 216.145.235.46

i agree with steve, the only way someone will know the difference is by feeling and inspecting the ear -in that case ealiners are the way to go for the competition route, however, that is not neccessary with bondo ears for commercial work, in my opinoin


Bondo. is my method ofchoice also.

This response submitted by Ray on 3/27/05 at 11:00 AM. ( hunterray2002@yahoo.com ) 63.188.129.40

I prefer the bondo method simply because ,you can get a thin ear with practice and you can get compitition ears with bondo. I also just a personal preferance. dont prefer. the earliners. because i have seen a few done with them and the ears have split out at the edges simply showing the earlinner. No this wasnt my own work, but others from local studio's.


My 2 cents

This response submitted by George on 3/27/05 at 11:04 AM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 64.12.116.133

I agree with J. and I think the point he's making is that if they're available, liners should be the standard. I often wonder why taxidermists go to such efforts to please a judge who does not pay them a single penny and disregard what they give their customers who pay their freight. I've used Bondo though I like Epo-Grip Magic Ear a thousand times better. The Magic Ear gives you hours to play with posture while the Bondo is done in 10 minutes. Besides, I'm not good at bonded ears, so I cheat with a proven product: earliners.


George...

This response submitted by Bill@Real Life on 3/27/05 at 11:51 AM. ( ) 24.69.255.205

I haven't used liners...not that I am not interested in trying them out on a couple of my own capes, but I am a little worried about the splitting that was mentioned above. I too have seen this on mounts that are 5 to 10 years old and have not seen it with bondo and doubt I will with Magic Ear. From a learning standpoint, can you tell me perhaps why the liners may split the outer edges of the ears and how I can avoid this when I do a couple mounts of my own in the next few months?


The liners weren't sized properly

This response submitted by George on 3/27/05 at 1:27 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.133

Now that's not a given, but it's the first place I look. Sometimes ears are split and superglued back together. This one is a guarantee that they'll open up in a few years as superglue seems to cause a brittleness that if not secured by epoxy, will split.

Many times taxidermists just push liners in without prefitting at all. This is a sure way to split an ear later as it dries. The most common mistake I see is that the earliner is prefit, and the taxidermist ignores the slight drumming of the inner ear. He'll glue it down and continue to press the hide against the earliner until it dries. Over time, that expansion is going to put pressures on the entire ear and the liner will "cut" through to split the ear. It is imperative that when earliners are used, they are fitted properly. That often means taking a pair of large liners, cutting them down to a point half way between medium and large, sanding the edges to a knife sharpness, and then gluing them in where there is absolutely NO drumming.

I keep harping on Bondo not being an adhesive. I can't change that, but as J. said, they are often too thick to look realistic, especially when the cartilage has been left. I'd highly recommend the Ear Magic or even clear epoxy with some fiberglass chop for strength. The epoxy will hold forever where sometimes, Bondo will disbond. If you're using DP, Bondo in the ears is NOT your friend.


ear magic good for those little cuts

This response submitted by paul e on 3/28/05 at 7:41 AM. ( americanmetalfab@bellsouth.net ) 65.6.117.140

ear magic is great for those little cuts or finger poke throughs
when it gells up remove the extra
you wont believe how thin you can get it with ear magic
i invert the ear and spread the ear magic directly to the cartilage
then revert it back
then i play with it till it kicks
it will not drum that stuff will stick to ears where a little oil is in them also
ive used bondo for more than twenty years
this stuff is infinately better(i hope i spelled this right)
do one and try to pell it apart after a week
i did before i did the first mount
the ear will tear first


Bondo , Resin & Chop

This response submitted by J P on 3/29/05 at 12:05 AM. ( ) 68.201.89.167

Fits every time without sizing.
Making them thin w/bondo takes practice.
I have also won ribbons w/bondo ears. However,it's about money so If you want to save time & money , Bondo all the way.


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