Bill Yox or any other whitetail nuts please

Submitted by Jeff Sonner on 11/17/05 at 7:37 PM. ( hoosiertaxidermist@myway.com ) 208.34.0.138

just wonder if this whitetail I have is a rare fluke or common. Got it in last night and the lower jaw is an inch plus change shorter than the upper. Pointed this out to the cust.and he decided to go with the mnt. anyway. Started checking face meas. and the eye to nose on the right is 3/8 shorter than the left. started checking other numbers and the caruncular to burr is the same 3 in. on both sides, caruncular to ear canal opening is shorter by 5/8 on rt. side comp. to left, and the eye orbit to lower edge of jaw bone is 1/4 in. longer on rt. compared to lt. ears are the same size, as are earbutts, hd just appears to have an arc from about the center of the pedicles to the rear of the skull. forward part of face starts a slight curve to the rt. about 1 1/2 in. forward of eyes and continues to the end of the nose. Nose is offset about 1/2-5/8 in. (both upper and lower sections). Lower jaw is missing #2 premolar(never had it)on the rt. side, and the teeth all angle out to the rt or outside edge. Extra charge on this one as I am casting the upper palate as I am righting this and looking forward to the alterations neccessary for accurate fit(laugh). Any comments would be appreciated. I talked to two of my fellow taxidermist friends today and neither had seen this before. I had anothe customer from another area far removed from this one bringme a skull last year for a european mnt that had the same problem with its jaw bone. just seems unusual-two deer same problem in just as many years. Thanks.

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Cape it ,Tan it, Mount it like normal.

This response submitted by Gary Frehse ( Frehse Taxidermy Studio ) on 11/17/05 at 8:28 PM. ( ) 64.255.102.91

Jeff, I get a couple a year. Always thought they looked like a deer eating corn throw a picket fence. Just get your neck measurments and mount as normal. Mouth corners wont be exact but only someone qualified will know. If you want to mount it looking like a genetic misfit then you will need to do some casting. Hey if I can help give me a call. Gary (<:


They're called "Parrot beaked"

This response submitted by George on 11/17/05 at 10:16 PM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.100.131

And they're more common than you'd think. The majority of piebalds are this way. I'd be very wary of getting fancy with it and follow Gary's advice. YOU will be the one judged by how it looks when its finished and they mount quite nicely on conventional forms.


Jeff, these guys hit it right on

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 11/17/05 at 10:48 PM. ( ) 67.138.11.173

The only reason I responded here is because you mentioned me, as these guys gave you good advice. I see those over bites frequently too, as well as crooked muzzles. In fact one of my better pen raised bucks is crooked. We call him SnaggleTooth, I suppose you could guess why!


thanks guys

This response submitted by jeff s. on 11/17/05 at 11:01 PM. ( ) 208.34.0.48

since I already talked to the customer I will probably do the alterations to keep it like it is. He is more than willing to pay the extra bucks I quoted so why not. I will keep your suggestions in mind for next time though.I am glad to know that this is not as uncommon as I thought. I was afraid that we had a genetics issue in my area. Thanks again.


Hmm

This response submitted by JB on 11/18/05 at 12:25 AM. ( ) 64.70.24.58

I think I once dated a girl who could probably eat corn through a picket fence, but if I recall, she wasn't a piebald.


Got 3 this year

This response submitted by Tony J. on 11/18/05 at 6:21 AM. ( ) 208.157.8.223

The first time I saw one I competed with it. I thought it was rare. I took a bunch of close up pics of it before I skinned it out. When I mounted it, I had a hard time with the skin bunching up on that lower jaw. (the lip line) It will mount up normally for sure. It really does look wierd though! I used the Fleming nose kit (just the lower jaw) and an upper pallet, then just used epoxy sculpt to finish the uper lip nodules.


Tony J.


Bill Engval would say....

This response submitted by cyclone on 11/18/05 at 9:03 AM. ( ) 129.43.43.200

It's a "dork deer"...lured em in with a corn dog.


Parrot mouthed

This response submitted by Rorie on 11/19/05 at 11:57 PM. ( ) 67.141.92.228

The correct term is Parrot Mouthed, it will mount up normally.
This happens all thru the hooved animal world, even with hogs but most people can't tell about swine anyway.


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