All whitetails ARE perfectly symmetrical!

Submitted by Glen Conley on 11/20/05 at 10:21 AM. ( g.conley@verizon.net ) 70.104.101.12

Boy, I bet Ol' Uncle George's neck hackles stood up on end when he read that thread title. He couldn't wait to get in here and flog somebody. He's always accusing me of sending him photos of weird whitetails to support my end of an argument. Don't believe him. Ain't true.

I have just changed out the free taxidermy reference photo down load on the Whitetail Designer Systems sample page. All the regulars know where to find it. Actually, there are two photos for this go round. They are set up so that you can print them out all the way up to 8" x 10 1/2".

Everyone needs these two. You might even want to print them on better paper so they can be hung in the shop.

By the way, when you guys measure from the center of the nose, to the front corner of the eye, which side do you measure on?
Glen

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Both !

This response submitted by Buck on 11/20/05 at 10:44 AM. ( michael.rodgers@web.de ) 62.180.196.38

2 Eyes -2 Measurements ?


Maybe George had a Heart Attack when you Posted This !

This response submitted by Buck on 11/20/05 at 12:26 PM. ( ) 62.180.197.114

What ? ...Well ,...were waitin George.......


I'm a taxidermist, not a mathematician

This response submitted by George on 11/20/05 at 2:05 PM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 205.188.116.136

I measure the side opposite the side it's laying on. And I don't measure the "middle" of the nose as much as I measure the PROFILE of the face. If a 7 inch cape will fit a 7.25 form, the I won't spend a lot of time worrying about the corner of one eye being an eighth of an inch longer. I don't even use calipers. I use a thin metal tape and hang the end tab in the corner of the eye and read the measurement across the nose profile. I measure the neck right behing the ears by pulling this same tape tight under the chin.

IN MY OPINION, some taxidermists make so much more of what we do than is necessary. We don't have any PhD's and millionaires doing taxidermy full time anyway. I skin'em, flesh'em, and stuff'em. It ain't rocket science and I don't treat it that way.


So,

This response submitted by Glen on 11/20/05 at 3:09 PM. ( ) 70.104.101.12

which side would you lay this one on? LMAO

Jeff Sonner's post from the other day caused me to dig this one out of the files.


Which side of the mountain did it fall on?

This response submitted by George on 11/20/05 at 5:21 PM. ( ) 205.188.116.136

Then I'd measure the opposite side.


Well said

This response submitted by Hedhuntr on 11/20/05 at 8:58 PM. ( ) 67.84.145.169

Well said George but I get a little more technical than you. I flip a coin, heads for the right side measurement and tails for the left! It has been working for me for almost 4 years and i don't plan on changing my system anytime soon! LOL


OMG!

This response submitted by Kristen on 11/21/05 at 3:40 AM. ( ) 12.202.2.234

That poor deer! I sure hope that photo was altered, otherwise I think that deer must get made fun of on a daily basis! lol


Kristen,

This response submitted by Glen on 11/21/05 at 6:55 AM. ( ) 70.104.101.12

that is not an altered photo. It is a real deal deer. That particular creature looks just as bad in real life as it does in the photo.

You did make one heckuva good point. Even if a person had the ability to make an exact "clone" of that animal as a mount, it is going to look bad regardless.

The way that I would suggest handling a customer that insisted on having an animal like that mounted would be to ask them, "Did you know you had an uncle that you didn't know about that does taxidermy in Delaware?".

You're welcome, Uncle George.


But Glen

This response submitted by George on 11/21/05 at 8:46 AM. ( ) 205.188.116.136

When I looked at the picture, it has YOUR NAME on it. Are we husbands-in-laws or what? LMAO

I had a deer brought in like this one a few years back. She'd been struck by a car and it had broken her muzzle. The muzzle had healed but her bottom jaw was a little offset. She'd had fawns, so I'm assuming that after recovery, she was able to fend quite well for herself.


Symmetry!

This response submitted by Rick Carter on 11/21/05 at 9:23 AM. ( ) 162.39.211.17

I've been reading too much again. It appears that symmetry is much more important than I once gave it credit for. The more symmetric animals are chosen by mates to breed more often than non-symmetrical animals. They also live longer. Humans find symmetrical faces more appealing too. Statistics have proven that Thoroughbred race horses with symmetrically measured leg bones consistently out-perform horses with more small flaws.


except

This response submitted by paul k on 11/21/05 at 4:12 PM. ( ) 68.83.60.41

The shorter legged american quarter horses, will whip the pants off a thouroughbred on the short stretch, lol , just not a big fan of those big grey hounds


Next Seminar

This response submitted by Nancy on 11/21/05 at 4:38 PM. ( icehouse.icehouse@verizon.net ) 70.20.155.44

Hi Rick, You should include those photos in your next seminar. Your one last year was great. I don't know if you remember me or not. I was the one in the front asking all the questions...... Ha HA HA. I am Lous student. I learned so much this year its amazing.


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