how to measure a salt dried cape for mounting

Submitted by bob on 1/16/06 at 6:55 AM. ( ) 205.188.116.12

how would you measure a cape that has been fleshed salted and dried. i would assume to do it the same as a cape that was just removed from the skull and frozen. any tips is apreciated. customer brought this deer to me because another taxidermist past away with this mount not done.
thanks in advance
bob

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wait

This response submitted by jason on 1/16/06 at 7:02 AM. ( ) 206.40.124.98

till after its tanned then take measurements


Seriously

This response submitted by B on 1/16/06 at 10:24 AM. ( ) 64.12.116.7

If you have to ask such a question. You shouldn't be doing customer work yet.


Absolutely!

This response submitted by Old Fart on 1/16/06 at 10:44 AM. ( ) 64.122.137.9

Sorry, Bob, you shouldn't be doing taxidermy AT ALL! I would like to see some pictures of your "work".


a simple question

This response submitted by bob on 1/16/06 at 12:15 PM. ( RNTAXIDERMY@AOL.COM ) 64.12.116.7

this was a simple question. i have been doing deer for over 11 years. i have measured deer that have been totally caped out before. my question was simple. do you do it the same. as i said i assume it is, but why assume when pro's here do it all the time can tell you for sure. thats not a reason for me not to be doing deer at all. think about that. come on guys get real. this sight is to help fellow taxidermist, isnt it?
bob


bob

This response submitted by michael s on 1/16/06 at 12:20 PM. ( ) 67.140.125.28

you can not measure a salted skin and get a correct measurement. that is why you didn't get your anwser it has to be rehydrated and perferably tanned


by the way

This response submitted by bob on 1/16/06 at 12:23 PM. ( RNTAXIDERMY@AOL.COM ) 205.188.116.8

old fart, if you want to see my work, give me an e-mail adress, and i will gladly send you pictures. what poses do you want. do you want close ups of my eyes, nose, mouth. my work is good and i would gladly accept yours and everyone elses critism on it. thanks again bob


was that so hard

This response submitted by bob on 1/16/06 at 12:36 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.130

thank you micheal for your responce. thats all the answer i needed. the others here need to read the post again. i am an experianced taxidermist on deer. the question reqired a short answer. it didnt require being told not to do any taxidermy at all. sorry, but that was lame. thanks again micheal
bob


If you've

This response submitted by Mark H on 1/16/06 at 1:50 PM. ( haskees@netzero.net ) 63.17.55.69

Been doing deer for eleven years, you should've known that you can't get accurate measurements from a dry salted hide. In eleven years you've never received a cape from out of state or country that was already fleshed, turned and salted that didn't have measurements? C'mon, you obviously don't do very many deer and are not full time.


im smarter than that

This response submitted by bob on 1/16/06 at 5:25 PM. ( RNTAXIDERMY@AOL.COM ) 205.188.116.8

Mark,
i have not had a cape come to me like that before because im busy enough that i dont "have to" take in work that someone else started and im not sure was done to my standards. it has nothing to do with being part or full time. it has to do with my way of doing things. a good taxidermist wouldtn stab another in the back by taking his work from him would he. in this case i accepted one which i sould normally turn down. does that clear it up for you.
bob


bob?

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/17/06 at 12:13 AM. ( ) 67.138.11.234

All things considered, then how do you measure YOUR capes? How about the salted ones? Havent you wait until theyre tanned? If youve been at it for 11 years, surely youve had to get measurements that werent available while freshly caped. Well, thats what these guys are trying to tell you.


Geesh Bob, Touchy aren't we?

This response submitted by B on 1/17/06 at 12:13 AM. ( ) 64.12.116.7

Taking in work that has been fleshed and salted has nothing to do with taking other taxidermist work. We have clients go to Africa. Idaho, Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico, New Zealand, Etc., we are their taxidermist. and it is us they want doing their work. So when they go they either do it themselves, have the outfitter do it or pay another taxidermist to do it. In Many instances it makes more sense to have a salted hide shipped home than it does to ship a completed mount. Now, you need to give it a rest. because the more you speak. The more it says Amateur.


not at all

This response submitted by bob on 1/17/06 at 7:16 AM. ( ) 152.163.100.130

i am not at all an amature. i just never got a cape in dried and salted. no i dont get in animals from exotic places. they are all local animals i do. does that make me amature. I think not. i use dp on my mounts not tan so dry capes are different to me. a smart man ask a question to that which he isnt positive. and in some ways some would say im not smart, when you read my post and i didnt do spell check. lol next time i post a specific question, i will write a book about what i am asking and be more specific. that is of course if i ever post again. its a shame that making a post here, where your supposto be able to get some real help, has made me not want to ever post again. thats sad. so lighten up.
bob


bob

This response submitted by matt on 1/17/06 at 11:36 AM. ( ) 65.111.193.127

bob, I must remember that I must give back in order to keep it. Giving back does produce results. what I have found out is that measurements taken with the full carcass and/or skinned is usually off a bit to your form. This is why stretching your tanned hide can compensate. However there are many times that the form just wont be exactly to what I need so whenever I took that measurement I must alter the form a bit. This might involve cutting the form and reattaching . So whenever I might take a measurement it just might not work for my needs.


sorry bob, its you

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/17/06 at 4:23 PM. ( ) 67.138.9.222

These guys gave you a little bit of grief, but hey, nothing in life is free. You sure would have helped yourself by explaining this all ahead of time. No, not a book, and yes, the spelling is a challenge, but DP puts it in a lot different perspective. If you wouldve explained you normally use dp and got a salted cape in, someone wouldve told you to work the cape through a tan system or krowtann, and then take measurements. Help yourself, and it comes easier.


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