Which end to you use? and when the handle falls off can I get my money back from a bullsh1t product?
I would have just hated to see the archives without a stupid question about georges product.
Maybe thats the reason for his bias toward krowtann because it sells and works. The old bent wire trick has been around for decades you just named it. LMAOAY. So here comes the backlash from george and his all girl band.
LMAOAY = laughing my ass off at you.
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George probally won't waste his time on you..HeHeHeHe
Paul, you have to be a taxidermist. Only a taxidermist would advertise how stupid they were never to market an idea that had been around for years. Next time I get a check for a batch of them, I'll think about you. But you are correct, it HAS been around for year. I personally used my own tool I built just like that in 1960. I had that one in my shop when Ken Walker visited to help me with a lifesize Stone sheep and had a fit over it. He related that he'd always used a screwdriver or putty knife and even at the Smithsonian (where he was working at the time) they were always poking holes in skins by using screwdrivers. He insisted I market it. So I found a place where I could buy file handles for pennies to what cost you dollars, I had Epo-Grip in stock and I ordered the wire. I make the tools, package them, and sell them to a couple suppliers. As a smart guy like you probably can figure out (as long as you have the calculator handy), I don't make enough to pay the mortgage with them, but I figure some people have better uses for their time instead of making common handtools. You notice, there's no patent on the tool. Knock yourself out, but the NAME is copyrighted, so next time your pin head gets in front of your fumble fingers, it's called a TaxiTuk tool. If you have one and you've broken it, you've misused it. If it doesn't work like advertised, the tool is smarter than you are.
George did you mean trade mark or TM or the R with the little circle around it?
see earl you were wrong. Got his feathers ruffled. Im not getting into the name calling or the Im better then you or smarter scene.
The main point I was trying to make and believe it worked, is when your bad mouthing a product that someone else likes , you should be able to take the same critism.
Now saying that, some people can benifit from you tool. It is a good idea.
It didn`t revolutionize the taxidermy industry ,but it sure was invaluable on my Irish Elk re-creation.AND George did give me the original!
Just claimed the name as being copyrighted. Didn't cost a dime as America has an implied copyright law. Registering a trademark costs time and money that didn't seem worth it to me. As Ken said, I won't matter if anyone else copies it or not. I'll have had the first one on the market and it has a name that Ken helped me select for it.
Some of you guys just won't ever get it I guess. I do this for FUN. I gave up the idea of being rich long ago and if I WAS trying to get rich, I'd damned sure pick another field.
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I have a good deal of respect for your time and knowledge to you put forth here on the forums. I didnt intentionally want to have a pissing match with you, I was just trying to point out you continual
bashing of krowtann. I know you dont like it, hell everyone that visits knows, But leave a dead dog be. I personally like the product and with the testing that I have done before I changed over to the product proved to me a laymen so to speak that its a fine product when used correctly.
I attacked your tool to grab your attention, and ruffle your feathers.
You posted the dangers of alum its in the archives. But the continual badgering, what gives? Let beginners be beginners and learn the way we all have, I learned like many old timers the school of hard screw ups. As I stated above I have done my own tests to see if it was what it says. I have placed tanned capes outsidre in the weather, pickled and tan back halfs fell apart before the krowtann, some lasted longer. Is it a real tan, I believe it is, you can also do thing with those capes that you cannot do with traditionally tanned capes. We can go all day on why I like it and you dont.
So to end it I apologize you bad mouthing your tool like I stated I wanted to get your attention.
ps I have one of your tools and threw out my old bent wire and apoxe handle.
theres always the next post.
And if your read the latest entries, I no longer have any problems with Krotann. I had ASSUMED, wrongly it now seems evident, that Krotann was an alum tan. I'll ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE WITH ALUM TANS. Brian tells me his new formula does not use alum as its active ingredient. That was, is and always will be my only reason for not having used the product. As I said, Ihave a full quart of it setting in my shop supply cabinet. I now understand his reasoning and I'm simply not that damned hardheaded as to refuse to apologize when I'm wrong. Brian understands that he led me off on that tangent with the label on the bottle. You won't hear any more comments from me badmouthing Krowtann, though I will jump on the dumbasses who persist in asking stupid questions that have been answered hundreds of times before.
But as far as "beginners being beginners", I don't buy into that letting them walk into the fire to learn what "hot" means. I paid a helluva price 50 years ago being treated just like that by the old taxidermists. I don't want that legacy attached to my name and we have a new "beginner" on here every day (more likely every hour) so I feel an obligation to him or her to teach him or her GOOD, SOLID, TIME TESTED theory. That's just me but I'd truly like to believe there are others who feel just as I do.
give them hell, as they deserve it for not doing any research.
have a good day
What is meant by the beginners statment is this.
All the info available, years of archives at thier disposal, If they cannot pull anything from that well then failure is eminemnet. Dark ages of taxidermy are over. I know exactly what you mean, I worked for a man for 8 long years skinning, and was not allowed to mount not one animal. When I finally mounted one of my own kills,I took it to him for critism and he fired me on the spot. I was mad at first , then thankfull, now I could compete against him with no mixed emontions.
I still have to wonder, if it has 4 different kinds of ALUM in it; how can it not be an alum tan?
. acetic acid,acid bate, alum, aluminum chloride, aluminum sulphate, ammonium alum, bactericide, citric acid, denatured alcohol, formic acid, gelon, krow-oil, pickle oil, pre-tan 110, sodium chloride, sodium sulfate, tanning agents, vinegar. 18 ingredients and PH of 8.3 .
I can't see where alum is't the big player in it.