just to know in advance

Submitted by LeeV on 3/17/06 at 10:22 AM. ( ) 199.147.231.219

My question is if you are going to use DP on a deer hide,and you want to use stop rot. Do you flesh and turn then wash in skin prep with bacteriacide then apply stop rot then use DP or would you apply stop rot then flesh and turn,wash & then DP ? OH one more thing if you if apply before fleshing do you need to use gloves while fleshing. thanks in advance

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LEE im not going to bash but

This response submitted by paul e on 3/17/06 at 11:01 AM. ( amfpaul@bellsouth.net ) 65.6.117.76

now i use dp on the smaller stuff but as for deer id recommend
tanning it
now listen this is cool
ive been experimenting with the help of Glen Conly with leatherizing acid and JRTS tanning cream(the tanning cream is my idea)
its almost as easy LEE
i take it off the head and apply stop-rot
i give it a soak in a brine and leatherizing acid at a ph of 5.5 to 6.0 for thirty min.the another stop-rot round
i then flesh
i then quick wash roll in a towel and apply JRTS
i usually let it go overnight
then i thin on a round knife and freeze
man these capes are coming out with fantastic stretch when mounting up
i get the stretch of a D.P.skin with the benifits like low shrinkage of a tanned skin
and almost no color loss in the eyes and such
paul e


Thanks paul

This response submitted by LeeV on 3/17/06 at 11:31 AM. ( ) 199.147.231.219

Thanks paul i might try that one day but thats not helping me on my Questions.


Too many chefs spoil the broth.

This response submitted by Glen Conley on 3/17/06 at 12:24 PM. ( g.conley@verizon.net ) 70.104.122.241

Too many different chemical combinations might reduce a cape to broth.

"My question is if you are going to use DP on a deer hide,and you want to use stop rot. Do you flesh and turn then wash in skin prep with bacteriacide then apply stop rot then use DP",

What skin prep? What bactericide? Sounds like potential disaster to me, a person would have to test quite a bit to establish compatabilities. The potential of neutralizing the combination of compounds you wrote of here is probably a good probability. Then you have nothing working for you.

"or would you apply stop rot then flesh and turn,wash & then DP ?"

That is a proven combination.

"OH one more thing if you if apply before fleshing do you need to use gloves while fleshing."

Wearing gloves when working with dead things is always prudent.

Nothing but STOP-ROT has been used on birds, fish, and mammals up to the size of a whitetail by a number of individuals since STOP-ROT hit the market. There is now question as to what is doing how much when used in conjunction with DP. DP is also a vague description as DP formulas will vary.

A few days ago I added a yearly update to a page on hidetanning.net.

The first meat piece was off a cape that was actually STOP-ROT treated in 2000, but it spent a year in the freezer after that. I have been photographing these pieces on an annual basis and then posting to the web. You can see for yourself as to why there is now question. I still have more additions to make to this page. The preservation properties of STOP-ROT are pretty obvious, even in a photograph.

here's the address:
www.hidetanning.net/STOP-ROT.html



thanks

This response submitted by LeeV on 3/17/06 at 12:51 PM. ( ) 199.147.231.219

Thanks Glen thats the answer i needed.


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