pickerel head

Submitted by ryan on 10/3/05 at 8:45 PM. ( rjrtaxidermy@yahoo.com ) 70.20.13.202

does anyone know where i can get a repro chain pickerel head? i checked all the catalogs i had but found none. can a pike head be substituted? thanks

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Yes BUT....

This response submitted by George on 10/3/05 at 11:24 PM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 64.12.112.153

...you're going to have a tough time finding a pike repro that small.


thanks george

This response submitted by ryan on 10/4/05 at 9:47 AM. ( ) 70.20.13.202

hopefully ill find one, its the new rhode island state record pickerel. probably small compared to other states but its 27 3/4 inches long with a 15 inch girth and was 6 lbs, 14 ounces. i just got it from the client yesterday and i fiured id start searching now. i havent measured the head yet as its still frozen.


Why don't you use the real head Ryan?

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/4/05 at 11:29 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

or cast it? A fish that small should not be a problem with the real head, and if you're something as rare as a state record you should at least be able to cast heads. Don't forget to degrease the fish.

What happens when a biologist sees the pike head on the chain pickeral and says, "Hey this fish has the head of a northern pike." There are physical differences i.e. the scale coverage on the cheek and gill covers.

Personally I think with something this rare you are doing a disservice to the angler by putting a different species head on it.


OK Cecil, I'll bite AGAIN

This response submitted by George on 10/4/05 at 1:34 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.133

You mean you can tell the difference between a musky and a pike head? OR A chain pickerel and a small pike? You know I'm not a piscatologist or ever want to be, but are there any differences.

BTW, I mount half a dozen pickerel every year and I ALWAYS use the real heads. They'll cut you if you get careless and require a good bit of fill work, but they still work.


Yes you can George

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/4/05 at 2:15 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

Lots of differences on where the head is scaled or not scaled on the cheek and gill cover on Pike, Musky, and pickeral. Could be other differences on the heads too as after all they are different species of fish.

Here's a link that explains the differences between Pike and Musky. I'm a little rusty but I believe the chain pickerel has a fully scaled cheek and gill cover. Would be easy to do a google search and find out but I have to get back to work.

http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/tigermusky.html


i do

This response submitted by ryan on 10/4/05 at 2:57 PM. ( ) 70.20.13.202

cast my own heads on all the fish i do, im just not comfortable casting with the gills open. havent done one that i thought was good yet.


Sorry Ryan I was wrong

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/4/05 at 3:15 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

I got the impression you hadn't cast heads since you were looking for a cast head. My bad. I emailed you back btw.


thanks

This response submitted by ryan on 10/4/05 at 8:12 PM. ( ) 70.20.13.202

for the help cecil


Thanx Cecil

This response submitted by George on 10/5/05 at 4:21 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.133

I told you, I'm not a fish specialist, And I honestly never paid that much attention to them to begin with.


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