Remount a mounted fish?

Submitted by TC Gauge on 12/17/05 at 11:49 PM. ( ) 207.118.180.240

I have a customer who has a walleye that was mounted about a year ago and is very dissatisfied with the mount(to be honest, it's terrible). He wants to know if it can be remounted. Any suggestions? Thanks

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Don't waste your time IMHO

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 12/18/05 at 12:13 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.104

You could strip it down and do a few modifications but in the end there is only so much you can do. I personally have had it with fixing other people's garbage. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.


Terrible how?

This response submitted by Marc R on 12/18/05 at 12:55 AM. ( cftaxidermy@alltel.net ) 71.30.68.169

First has he addressed this issue with the original hacksidermist? Second, crappy paint job, excessive shrinkage, shoddy craftsmanship, can you be a little more specific on what this mount is lacking. If he is simply dissatisfied with the paint job, strip it and redo it up to par. If it's grotesque beyond repair, sell him a reproduction. Do NOT listen to what Cecil said! You said in your first sentence, "customer", which translates to person who pays my bills. Keep them happy, make them pay for their ignorant mistakes(like not taking it to you in the first place) because like the sign in my shop says, STUPIDITY SHOULD BE PAINFUL! I'll fix other people garbage all day long, but.....this is very important.....only attempt it as long as you feel confident that the finished product can be improved in such a way, as to reflect you, your business, and your skills in a positive way. If not do not try to unf#@k someone elses mess, if it's going to make you look bad, and cost you money and bad publicity in the end. Explain that to the customer, they may not like what you have to say, but will appreciate your honesty in the end. Like I said earlier, put your salesmanship to work and sell him a reproduction that you can make some money off of, and he'll be pleased with. Best of luck, Marc R


I want that sign

This response submitted by George on 12/18/05 at 10:03 AM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.100.133

Marc, that's a classic. I'm off to my sign maker. LOL


DITTO on that sign

This response submitted by Marc on 12/18/05 at 10:50 AM. ( ) 70.224.236.61

You also gotta like that term...HACKSIDERMIST. That is too damn funny!


Well Marc R.

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 12/18/05 at 11:26 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.104

No need to insult just because you don't like my politics. I've been doing fish for 23 years and I think I've learned a few things. And I've also won my share of awards including the Lifetone Award consecutively for a few years until it was not offered anymore for best painted fish of the entire competition in the masters division.

Not only to I have three pick up drop off points and do work for 4 other taxidermists (not wholesale I get my full price) my work load is sufficient that I can turn down things I deem a waste of time. Maybe it's a psychological thing, but when I see the s--t some taxidermists do because the customer was too cheap to bring it to a good taxidermist-- that charges more -- I have no sympathy.

I've see once in a lifetime record fish that were so terrible someone had to try and do them that bad. Grease bleeding out, cartoon anatomy, hideous paint job etc. etc. I've also found if the paint job is bad usually everything else is.

And one thing you didn't mention. With some of this junk, when you consider the time involved to fix it as best you can, the price is too high for these tight wads.

I no longer give away my time. Life is too short and I'm not desperate for business.


I agree with Cecil...

This response submitted by marty on 12/18/05 at 11:33 AM. ( ) 24.15.107.136

Typically, the positioning is crappy as well. A rehydration and total redo can be done. But that can lead to some stinky issues as well. Who knows what you'd be getting yourself into. BUT, I would quote him a price MORE than a replica. Along with a replica price.

I don't buy Marc's response. Be nice to the customer and don't make him feel like an idiot. He's already in your shop so he must've seen something he liked. Explain the differences between poor work and quality work. Give him his options and let him make a decision. If he takes his business elsewhere, oh well...


Cecil...

This response submitted by marty on 12/18/05 at 11:35 AM. ( ) 24.15.107.136

...you would think with all them awards that you would've been qualified to pick up on some of those anatomical mistakes with Joey's fish in an earlier post. Hmmmm... (I'm JUST kidding Cecil, so don't get your panties in a bunch - feel free to jam me back, Happy Holidays - lol!)


No need to jam you back

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 12/18/05 at 12:06 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.104

Marty. I don't need to proove myself. LOL

Seriously Merry Christmas to you too.


Put it on EBAY ! get the guy some money back !

This response submitted by Buck on 12/18/05 at 1:23 PM. ( ) 87.193.5.116

Make sure to list it as HACKADERMY ! let me hear what he gets for it.
Buck....


Gee Thanks Marty

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 12/19/05 at 12:11 AM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

Rub it in some more why don't you! You wait till the next one. its not that big but I bet it will be closer thanks to what you took the time to tell me And what Cecil tried to teach me. Then I got a great tip tonight from the ez nose guy I am going to try, we will see.

And guess what. I will have to clip the back fin off. This guy wants it on a plaque>>> and doesn't want me to stand it off any. I guess there is a time to and a time not to, huh.

To TC good luck if you try it, my skill level would not allow me too. I tried to fix a largemouth of mine that was done by another 4-5 years ago with no luck. I could still see the areas that needed reparing and floated it down the stream. I also re carved a body for a rainbow I did for myself and remounted it the skin got soft enough to remove and remount but I had to baby set it all day as the skin wanted to drum everywhere I had the contours in the old body. Once dried it was fine but it took more time the second go round then the entire process of doing it right the first time. I think I would just offer a reproduction and let it go if need be. If your customer has already noticed what needs to be repaired he probably will notice them no matter how good you make them. Due to having to pay twice to have it done, I would.

back to you Marty. Would you like to see photos of the reasons I got in to taxidermy. It is a largemouth bass and a black bear. The same guy did them and was working on them at the same time. He had done deer for me before and does a good deer but these are horrible.


Sorry Joey...

This response submitted by marty on 12/19/05 at 2:42 AM. ( ) 24.15.107.136

Didn't mean to pick on you. I just love to tease Cecil about all those ribbons he took a few decades back at the Indiana VFW with the judges with seeing-eye dogs!

I'll bet many of us got into taxidermy for the very same reasons you did. I got burned on a deer head once. Had a couple of fish mounted poorly as well. But the deer was a nice big 12 pointer and that left a sore spot. I've got the rack still. And at least the guy gave me my money back. But you get to thinking that with a little effort it wouldn't be all that hard to do a better job than most out there. And then the rest is history!

Don't get me wrong. Your Crappie is much better than most out there. I just pointed out some little things I thought you could improve upon if you wish to take things to the next level. And of course, it IS just MY opinion so take it for what it's worth...


I know you are

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 12/19/05 at 4:27 AM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

but I need to be picked on sometimes. That is the only way I will get it through my thick skull.

Cecil didn't tell me those came from the VFW.LMAO


A little help with re-paint recommendations fior a walleye

This response submitted by Randy Prestash on 12/24/05 at 1:57 PM. ( prestash6028@sbcglobal.net ) 69.210.128.211

I have a really nice 10# walleye that was a skin mount from 15 years ago. It got shelved during a major home remodeling and now has some broken fins and a less than perfect paint job with dust and few chinks in its armour. I have a double action air brush and some artistic ability but really would appreciate some help in what are the best paints and a color plan for a traditional slightly golden Canadian Lac Seul Walleye. Thanks much, this is an excellent site with lots of great information.
All my Best,
Randy
Oconomowoc Wisconsin


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