scale tipping problem

Submitted by pole on 12/26/05 at 1:19 PM. ( ) 68.79.133.65

I've checked the archives with no avail. the problem is that my tippings are fine until I put my final clear coat on,then the scales lose their luster ,reflectability,you know what I mean!I've tried about every paint and wax out there.I've also tried about every clear coat out there.I know about the tin foil and don't want to go that rout.I know it can be done,I've seen fish at shows that looked close,almost real.Please,can you help me with this problem,I would be very apheciative.THANKS POLE,

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Here are a few thoughts that may help.

This response submitted by Rick Krane on 12/26/05 at 1:50 PM. ( rmkinc1@msn.com ) 70.109.159.207

Hi Pole,

Let's see if I understand what your asking help with. You are tipping however when you clear coat you have lost the color?

With out knowing what you are using or at what point you're applying your colors to the scales. I can offer a few things.

1.) Tip before during and after you paint to finish. I build a paint job not only accent the scale but actually build layers of color and effect on them as I go along.
2.) Again not knowing what you use or what your knowledge base is (know disrespect intended Pole) some folks buy powders for other mediums and not know what is to be used where and when.
2A.) some colors or powders are shimmers or reflective in nature but are meant to accent or to complement a color being used before or in some cases after. Other mediums such as pearls can be use to also complement but may serve you in using it as a base to lay a color over creating a depth to a color.

I use a multitude of mediums to tip scales and don't be afraid to try many new things. Just do use reference and always remember that the live fish is the great reference and the most helpful teacher. Look at a fish deeply with intensity and you will find new things just about every time you look.

You can email if you like or call. If you want to talk more about it.

My Best to you!

Happy Holidays!

Rick Krane
anglers Artistry
312 Chesterfield Rd
Hinsdale, NH 03451
603-336-7296


Hey Pole...................

This response submitted by Paul B on 12/26/05 at 6:03 PM. ( bears@att.net ) 24.236.222.110


where you from? Local talent?

Paul B


tippings gone bad

This response submitted by pole on 12/26/05 at 8:33 PM. ( ) 69.208.76.59

Rick,thanks! I'm going fishing in the morning,call ya when I get back.yes paul I'm local,we've got to talk.


Why do they have to shine ?

This response submitted by Buck on 12/27/05 at 12:41 PM. ( ) 83.176.142.223

On most of my fish, I want the clear to "matt " the tipping out a bit. so it don't become too "overpowering! and "gaudy! or Fake ! ...I'd say let it "Fade out a bit to keep it natural..Just my way of tippin...
Buck...


Depends on the species Buck!

This response submitted by marty on 12/28/05 at 11:52 AM. ( ) 24.15.107.136

With a walleye (usually) you want to lay on a thick scale tipping because this is what they look like!

What I believe is happening is the gloss coat adds another layer - a fairly thick layer mind you. And this simply cuts down on the reflective properties of pearls and metallics because less light is getting to them. One solution is to allow for this and be "srtonger" with your metallic tippings KNOWING that they will be dulled after the gloss coat. But, erring on the "too dull" side is much preferred vs. having the final matallics too strong, so be careful and adjust slowly...


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