If you use Epo-Grip, read this!

Submitted by Aaron Honeycutt on 01/30/2004. ( mhoneyATmindspring.com ) 207.69.2.17

Using Epo-Grip 2 part adhessive has definite advantages reguarding holding power however it's relativly fast setting time can cause problems- once it sets you can't make adjustments. Yesterday while mounting a deer I got a phone call reminding me that I had planed to attend a Turkey Federation fund raiser last night. I finished the mount with just enough time to run through the shower and leave. Normally I check the mount 2 hours after completion to make minor changes but of course could not this time. When I returned 6 hours later I found a couple of thick spots near the briskit which were not movable. I pulled the skin away from the form and heated the Epo-Grip with a hair dryer and it melted right down to it's sticky state, I respread the adhessive and replaced the skin--fixed! This morning, 15 hours after completing the mount I tried the hair dryer again on the muzzle of the deer. The heat softened the adhessive and I made some very minor improvements around the whiskers. Since we have had such cold weather lately my shop has been extra cool. To use the Epo-Grip required heating it some to mix it which I had been doing with the hair dryer. Had it not been so cold I would never have tried the dryer on the mount. I have that mount bagged now with a big garbage bag and will try to make more adjustments just to see how long it might be possible over the next few days. Perhaps this information will help someone. Enjoy, Aaron H.

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Aaron, even a blind pig sometimes finds an acorn

This response submitted by George on 01/30/2004. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.252.165

You were very fortunate indeed and anyone who uses a two-part epoxy needs to have it stressed to them, ONCE YOU START, DO NOT STOP UNTIL FINISHED. I'm not sure that the holding power of your glue is going to be the same after your heat excursions. Heat accelerates the process of epoxy. It's not like plastic where you can heat and reseal. When I'm using it, I don't answer the phone. That's why they make answering machines. And I try not to have any unexpected "emergencies". I usually do my mounting at night when the damned phones have quit ringing anyway, but I certainly wouldn't recommend your methods as an "in case" alternative.


George

This response submitted by Superpig on 01/30/2004. ( ) 198.81.26.46

it is suppose to be a blind chicken not a blind pig. I personally feel offended, afterall I am partial to pigs as you know. LMAO


Never heard it being a chicken, its always been a pig.

This response submitted by JOhn C on 01/30/2004. ( ) 66.233.157.155

Sorry but never heard of chickens eating acorns. The old saying has always been a blind pig finding an acorn.


Guess it depends on where you are from

This response submitted by Tenbears on 01/30/2004. ( ) 205.188.209.8

Around here it is a blind Squirrel that finds the nut. LMAO


Squirrel

This response submitted by Bruce Norton on 01/30/2004. ( ) 155.76.241.129

I always heard a blind squirrel!


Chicken makes more sense

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers on 01/30/2004. ( ) 66.82.9.26

A blind pig or squirrel would have no problem finding an acorn, since they can use their noses to locate it. A chicken relies on sight, so a blind chicken would have much more difficulty finding anything to eat.


Oh, and

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers on 01/30/2004. ( ) 66.82.9.26

turkeys eat acorns, so why wouldn't chickens eat small acorns? =)


About this chicken

This response submitted by superpig on 01/30/2004. ( ) 198.81.26.46

Well I guess chickens are the German saying then. Sometimes I get mixed up what is a German saying and what is an American one. Ah it is so hard to be multilingual and multitalented. LOL

The chicken is not suppose to find an acorn, it is suppose to find a kernel of corn. So there. I feel better now that the records are set straight.

By the way Vicki, I just love your explanation on the pigs and the chicken. Only a woman could come up with such a logical answer. LOL


Evelyn, as USUAL, you're WRONG again

This response submitted by George on 01/30/2004. ( ) 152.163.252.165

You've been drinking the same water Cecil has and it's destroyed your logic. Blind PIGS find acorns BECAUSE of their noses. Chickens couldn't find anything to eat by smell but would peck just to be sure. Squirrels dig occasionally to luck into a buried acorn, BUT no blind squirrel would ever make it to the ground alive anyway. It'd be pretty tough jumping from limb to limb when you can't see it and hawks and owls eliminate them quickly anyway. So that's why pigs end up as pork chops and chickens end up in frying pans.


Huh?

This response submitted by Superpig on 01/30/2004. ( ) 198.81.26.46

What on earth are you yapping about now George? I know pigs have an accute sense of smell. Vicki pointed this out very intelligently herself. I have no clue about any blind squirrels and did not mention a blind squirrel. So take your squirrel argument up with Tenbears. LOL

And the whole point of the saying with the blind chicken is that a blind chicken can't find a stinkin kernel of corn because they can't smell worth a crap and now they are blind on top of it. Ah duh George do I have to explain it to you again? Gosh how did this discussion even get started? ROFLMAO


I love it Evelyn

This response submitted by George on 01/30/2004. ( ) 205.188.209.8

The veins in your forehead bulge out when you get mad like that. LMAO.


Germans?!?!?!

This response submitted by lance H on 01/30/2004. ( ) 63.147.130.91

Speaking of Germans, (we were, weren't we?), my pre-school age little girl is at the dinner table this evening and says, quite loudly, that she has something to say. So, we give her the table and she proceeds to tell us how the Germans came to her school this week. Curious by this point, I ask her why the germans were at her school and she tells us it's because they were there to tell them how important it is to wash under their fingernails and everythings because of germs. After I got done laughing, I was able to confirm that the guests were, in fact, the county health department people, and not the "germ"ans.


Superpig

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers on 01/30/2004. ( ) 66.82.9.36

If you'll notice my last name(s), you may recognize families of German origin. I envy you being able to speak German! I know two languages fluently...one being the language I use around my parents/family/etc. The other is language I hope they don't hear! LOL! =)

Ok, George, if ya want to get picky. A blind pig would be sent to the slaughterhouse before he had a chance to even know what an acorn is. Or fall off a cliff and eaten by buzzards. The squirrels that 'luck into' a buried acorn are the male ones. The females don't luck into them, they remember where they buried them in the first place.


OK, OK, I give

This response submitted by George on 01/30/2004. ( ) 152.163.252.165

No way I'm gonna try to match wits with TWO woman. That's like dealing with 10 Cecils.


pigs, chickens, squirrels?

This response submitted by Aaron Honeycutt on 01/31/2004. ( mhoneyATmindspring.com ) 207.69.1.130

Sure didn't mean to spark a discussion of barnyard residents. As for the Epo-Grip, I'm quite aware that epoxie type compounds typically accelerate with heat and I was not for a moment suggesting that anyone should plan to slop on the adhessive and drive into town only to return and heat things up to slide the skin around. My point was simply that sometimes you may discover an error after the setting time and using this method you might make it better. I was surprised that the adhessive behaved as it did and now it has been 24 hours since I heated the adhessive and made the adjustments. I see no difference in this deer and the one I mounted before it, as far as the look of the briskit area. Perhaps scientific testing would show the heated area is not as strong but the stuff got super sticky and I have no doubt that it has sufficient strength to hold the skin to the mannikin. Maybe Epo-Grip is not like plastic and you can't just melt it down-- but that's just what I did last night after 6 hours. Today I tested some that was exposed to the air for 12 hours and it would not soften much at all which figures since it would be cured and much dryer than under a skin. Nobody should plan to make all adjustments after "setting time" but having a fix for an unplanned problem is always a good idea. Respectfully submitted by a "blind pig", Aaron H.


I never thought much about it

This response submitted by Glen Conley on 01/31/2004. ( g.conley@verizon.net ) 67.200.29.16

until now, but what ever happened to the Three Blind Mice? Are they still around?


Eh did I do that?

This response submitted by Superpig on 01/31/2004. ( ) 198.81.26.46

Sorry Aaron if I got this thread somehow of track, but I was blinded by George's thoughtless response about the pig.

Glen, the last time I saw those three blind mice was on Shrek's dinner table in his swamp. Don't know whether they still reside with him or not.

George I am glad that you finally have come to your senses and realize that you have been out done this time. LMAO


Yeah,

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers on 01/31/2004. ( ) 66.82.9.70

What she said, George. Plllltttt! =)


Where's Cecil

This response submitted by Old Fart on 02/01/2004. ( ) 64.122.57.4

When you really need a political comment, where is he?


Here you Go

This response submitted by Cecil Wannabe on 02/06/2004. ( ) 63.149.216.42

Pigs must be democrats .


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