Deer Lip Slot

Submitted by JC on 12/30/05 at 4:31 AM. ( ) 67.68.34.151

Hi guys, before my question, happy new year
My question is:

Can some one tell me the bit to use on the dremel tool to make the lip and teard. slot. Just go to the dremel page and give me the part number.. Thank you sooo much ! JC

http://www.dremel.com/HTML/home_fr.html

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jc

This response submitted by SteveD on 12/30/05 at 5:04 AM. ( aaa_taxidermy@yahoo.com ) 68.169.25.254

Im sure alot of people use a dremel for this but heres what I do. I use a Gene Smith Modeling Tool from WASCO. Turn the form over angle the tool up (towards the top of the deer) starting at one of the back corners push the tool in and just move it around to creat an oversized hole, pull the tool most of the way out and using the end of the tool follow the lip line around making your slot, when you get to the other corner do the same and make another oversized hole (just slightly bigger than the shaft of the tool). I also use this tool for my tearducts. By doing this it pretty much pushes the foam to the sides and makes almost a spring slot instead of actually removing any of the foam like the dremal, and once you push the skin in it really helps to hold the skin in place, just make sure you still use hide past and a couple of pins or brads. Hope this helps


SCREW DRIVER

This response submitted by WALT on 12/30/05 at 5:24 AM. ( ) 66.15.40.173

I just use a small flat head screw driver it works fine for me.


I use my scaple and

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 12/30/05 at 5:32 AM. ( J32a@aol.com ) 205.188.116.137

a screw driver for the back corner of the lip. just have to take it slow or the scaple blade will break and don't cut it. Just take the blade in and out at first then go back and connect the dots so to speak. Thats me anyhow... alot of ways, seen some use a jig saw blade. Thing I was taught was to use, lip tucking tool... I just find the foam to be so soft that its just easier for me to grab the scaple..


To answer your question

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 12/30/05 at 6:12 AM. ( J32a@aol.com ) 205.188.116.137

If I just had to use a dremel, I would try the 7134, 7144,9902 or the 9904 and see which one I liked the best. Or I would look in the WASCO catalog and see what they sell to use. Good luck but i just dont know why you would want to have all that dust flying around...


steady hand needed

This response submitted by Mr.T on 12/30/05 at 9:13 AM. ( ) 64.31.6.222

The dremel tool to me is overkill and leaves to big a slot and the lips pull back out when drying. Most training videos use the dremel and that how I know. It takes practice to make a nice dremel slot that is straight. Listen to the guys above. You will have better control with a butter knife. Now off I go to my shop, see y'all tonight.


Mr. T nailed it

This response submitted by George on 12/30/05 at 12:27 PM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 205.188.116.137

And Lord help you if you sneeze or hiccup. You're in deep stuff. The "best" tool I've found is an imbedded scrollsaw blade in a file handle. I take the fine toothed blade and hold it with Vise-Grips. Then I sand the kerf off of both sides of the blade until the blade is espectially thin and supple. Then I fill a file handle with epoxy paste and push the blade into it. This cuts a great thin line without worrying about punching the side of the mouth off.


A very thin one

This response submitted by Roadkill on 12/30/05 at 12:29 PM. ( gossard@gtelco.net ) 205.208.199.6

Unless you arenot thinning the lips as thin as I do. the scalpel blade is about what I use mostly. I do use a very small tip cutter that is round on top, and I plunge it in the corner of the mouth first. I them go slow around the the rest, with the bigger tip inside, but leaving the smaller part under the tip up at the surface of the foam so that the lip line is very thin, but there is more roon inside.
HOpe this helps. A small screwdriver works best in tucking, just do not have it very sharp. I like to dull mine into more round.


i like the saw blade two

This response submitted by paul e on 12/30/05 at 1:31 PM. ( amfpaul@bellsouth.net ) 65.6.73.108

i got one of those drill tools years ago
i also found the lips pulling out
i either use a saw blade or my lip tucking tool


I am confused as all get out now

This response submitted by Joey arender on 12/30/05 at 5:32 PM. ( J32@ ) 152.163.100.133

Not about the correct way to do a lip slot there are many. What get me is the way this site opperates. JC asked what bit to get not how to do it. I know we were all trying to be helpful buthe ask ed a prety straight forward question.
He posted in the gamehead category not the beginners where I(I) should be. Yet we all told him how we do lips and not what bit he could use. I will say this with a flexable shaft its easy to get a striaght line Period... I have done it. If I can anybody can. I didn't like how I had to pin the lips and then have pin holes to repair or have lips to pull out. I just wonder George why you or George jr didn't pipe in with check the archives. I know its in there.


table knife

This response submitted by JIm on 12/30/05 at 7:16 PM. ( ) 24.220.53.240

I use a table knife to cut my slot and use the same tool to tuck my lips. good luck


Hi Joey

This response submitted by Mr.T on 12/30/05 at 7:40 PM. ( ) 64.31.6.4

If someone asked me that same question, I would give him the same answer that I left above. Moreover, it looks like I am not the only one that would. I went the dremal way on the first two screw-ups in my career because that is what I saw used in the video. The next video I watched, the slot was done by hand, what a revelation in end quality. I do use a dremel when I cut the nose off and create a septum with the dremel, but the work only has to be close enough, not what a lip line would need. I guess from the advice left above, the majority of guys here feel that a lip slot should never be done by a dremel tool.


Joey, let's use your question

This response submitted by George on 12/30/05 at 9:01 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.133

If you asked me what caliber rifle you should use to commit suicide, I'd most likely recommend you using a pistol as a rifle needs to be handled by a contortionist.

You are correct, the guy DID ask a specific question, but instead of telling him that if he really wanted to improve the quality of his mounts he'd stop using a tool that most of us quit using 25 years ago. When a guy asks me what size screwdriver I use to tuck lifesize, I tell him I don't. I don't tuck lips with them either. Remember my old rule? His question is in the GAMEHEAD category and not the BEGINNERS so we're just trying to help him produce a better product.


Oh

This response submitted by joey arender on 12/30/05 at 9:03 PM. ( J32a@aol.com ) 64.12.116.133

I agree Mr.T, I just haven't got a handle on how this site works yet thats all. That to big a slot is why I use my scapel now. Later


Well That tells me a lot

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 12/30/05 at 11:08 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

about what you think george. I think I get it now


Thak you Guys big help

This response submitted by JC on 12/31/05 at 1:03 PM. ( jctaxidermy@bellnet.ca ) 67.68.34.58

Happy new year to all :)


I use a dremel

This response submitted by MattC on 1/1/06 at 10:14 AM. ( ) 204.116.154.231

I use a dremel wth a with a extremely small bit. I dont put the first pin in my lips and dont have any shrinking or "pulling out" at all.


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