Gonna be teaching...

Submitted by Will on 1/21/01. ( willywill59@yahoo.com ) 204.180.108.88

Someone about the art of taxidermy with the intent that they are equipped to open there own business about 40 miles away. I'm not concerned about the competition. In fact I'm looking forward to it...keeps me sharp.

I've taught workshops for a couple years now for those wishing to improve their beginner skills or move on to mare advanced level in preparation for competition. I've never taught anyone from ground zero and was a little curious if anyone has ever done that before. I'm not talking about family or the next door neighbor but a complete stranger who I've gotten to know. Their references all check out, they don't have any Fish and Game violations. I could care less if they join the NTA, IGT, or any other organization. I want to prepare them to open a business providing good, quality work for the public.

Let's hear it!

Thanks in advance,

Will

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huh?

This response submitted by mark .B on 1/21/01. ( dontgivea ) 24.4.252.131

Yea so?..........


???

This response submitted by Dominic on 1/21/01. ( ) 216.78.40.58

If you are not worried about them joining any of the established taxidermy organizations, why are you worried about Game Law violations or references.Seems to me that would be a good place to get these.


As long as

This response submitted by Grady on 1/21/01. ( ) 209.240.220.148

you have confidence in your own skills and abilities I dont see any problems.Go for it.


Ask a simple...

This response submitted by will on 1/21/01. ( willywill59@yahoo.com ) 204.180.108.147

question and get a bunch of idiots forcing their opinion on me. I don't agree with the way the NTA is heading and won't recommend an organization I don't like. If they want to join that's their decision, not yours or mine. As far as references go it would be nice to know if I have a parolee or a dead-beat. I don't think that people of that ilk would reveal that info, do you?!?!? At any rate, MArk B and Dominic...I have a request for suggestions and get bitched at instead. Do you really think that is going to change my mind about the NTA? You can disagree with me all day long..just keep the childish behavior out of the mix.


Grady...Thanks for your response. It's refreshing to hear someone look at the question and answer it!


Ask a simple...

This response submitted by will on 1/21/01. ( willywill59@yahoo.com ) 204.180.108.147

question and get a bunch of idiots forcing their opinion on me. I don't agree with the way the NTA is heading and won't recommend an organization I don't like. If they want to join that's their decision, not yours or mine. As far as references go it would be nice to know if I have a parolee or a dead-beat. I don't think that people of that ilk would reveal that info, do you?!?!? At any rate, MArk B and Dominic...I have a request for suggestions and get bitched at instead. Do you really think that is going to change my mind about the NTA? You can disagree with me all day long..just keep the childish behavior out of the mix.


Grady...Thanks for your response. It's refreshing to hear someone look at the question and answer it!


BobB

This response submitted by Will, relax and take a breath on 1/21/01. ( foxranch@hotmail.com ) 216.165.140.87

Will,

Good for you on the desire to share your skills, but I reread your post and those of Mark and Dominic. Didn't see either of those two
try to force their ideas or beliefs on you.

I think what both gentlemen where responing to, was wondering what it is that you want, with your "Let's hear it!" ending.

I missed it myself, if you were asking a specific question, then on your second post you go into the NTA stuff, in reaction to questions by Mark and Dominic.

So before calling guys idiots, why not reread your 1st post and then ask again for the specific info, you are seeking.

I again commend you on teaching others, but if you want answers to specific questions, you really need to ask them.

Good luck Will, and keep your chin up.


Chill out a bit

This response submitted by PaulB on 1/21/01. ( taxidermst@att.net ) 12.87.108.165


I have to agree with Bob here Will, slow down a little bit and reread your post and the others. I see nothing idiotic about Mark's or Dominic's replies. they also never asked for your opinion on the NTA or other assoc. Beleive me , after your on this site a while you will know when someone is force feeding you, but that hasn't happened here.

Paul


Chill

This response submitted by Marc on 1/21/01. ( CapeFearTaxidrmy@aol.com ) 205.188.208.76

Will! Marc


oh well

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/21/01. ( ) 205.188.209.172

See how this stuff gets started? What DID Will expect to receive for a reply? When I teach students, I make them aware of the various orgs out there. Its up to THEM to decide. I teach them taxidermy, not my opinions on the NTA, etc. Plus, the IGT is just another group, no mandatory anything. The NTA isnt too shabby either, just experiencing some growing (or nongrowing) pains right now. Ten bucks says you arent a member of your own states association? Best of luck just the same...


Thanks for the Wake up!

This response submitted by Will on 1/22/01. ( willywill59 ) 204.180.108.148

I got a bit twisted when I saw the first reply post from Mark B. The address said

Dontgivea

with a "yeah, so"

in the submission box. That was what set me off!

Dominic's reply doesn't seem attacking now that I go back. I guess I just get a little touchy when anyone places a post like that to a sincere inquiry for help. I try to help others, and others have been a TREMENDOUS help since I first found this site. I still think it's a good thing. It's when people start getting attacked personally for stating opinions that I get my panties in a wad.
Here's a for instance...

I don't necessarily agree with everything JohnC says or does but the man does make an effort to help. When he offered his workshops or seminars and stated that he wouldn't take anyone unless they were an NTA member he got raked over the coals. That isn't right. It's his right to offer anything to anyone with any conditions he pleases. Why is that an opening to condemn him?!?!?

MAybe I shouldn't have stated my opinion of the NTA and other organizations. I guess I'll never be too old to learn something.

Anyway...Bob. B, Paul B., Bill Yox, and Marc thanks for the "Chill, will" advice!

I did!

And I am a member of my state association. It's a great way to learn and meet some pretty cool people.


Yox is right

This response submitted by Mark.B on 1/22/01. ( Stilldontgivea ) 152.163.188.40

I Just bet Bill yox Is right and your not.


Mark B, now you stepped over the line

This response submitted by BobB on 1/22/01. ( foxranch@hotmail.com ) 216.165.140.85

Will,

Congrats on rereading the original stuff. Send Yoxy a copy of your state membership and request the $10 in pennies (he pays the S&H) - LOL.

Mark, what can any of us say, Will graciously apologized, now you go and show us who was truly right the 1st time - and it wasn't you.

I hope WIll ignores your comment, showing us all just who, is the real man.


One more thing.....

This response submitted by BobB on 1/22/01. ( foxranch@hotmail.com ) 216.165.140.85

Missed it the first time, but unless Mark B visits from home and somewhere else, he may be 2 people, as his posted ISP numbers are different.

Maybe Mark B, is an imposter just doing his best to put gas on a fire


Not attacking you.

This response submitted by Dominic on 1/22/01. ( ) 216.78.44.119

Sorry that you missed the meaning in my post. I was not attacking you.
When you asked "Lets hear It" I assumed you wanted some responses.
As for the organized taxidermy associations, none of us would be where we are today without organized taxidermy. Before the NTA, I went to visit a large freshwater fish studio in one of the Southern states. Everything was fine, until the owner found out I was a taxidermist, then he pushed me out the door. Today, that same person has a supply business, and has tripled many times over his business. He also conducts seminars, workshops,etc. and welcomes people to his studio.
The NTA, and to a lesser extent the IGT is responsible for the great sharing of knowledge of taxidermy in this country today. Anyone can deny the fact, but it is still true. As for not likeing the NTA, I didn't like Bill Cl***on, but that did not make me renounce my citizenship . I don't like the IRS, but I continue to pay taxes.
I don't like Dale Earnhart, but I still go to the races.
Just to say you don't like the NTA ,and use it for an excuse for not belonging,is a lame excuse at best. But I guess any excuse is better than non at all.


PAROLEES

This response submitted by DUFUS on 1/22/01. ( ) 64.12.96.108

hey!, some of my best friends are parolees, will!

geez would u guys lighten up in here! i can imagine what it would be like to work in a shop with some of you guys! it would take a tractor to pull a needle out of some of your butts!


good thing we didnt shake!

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/22/01. ( ) 152.163.188.72

No offense at my end either, guys. Will, enjoy the teaching!


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