New New York gun, coming soon to Indiana

Submitted by RC on 01/29/2004. ( )

BEGINNING OF NYS GUN REGISTRATION: New budget bill would institute State-wide gun registration!
New York State Legislature ^ | Wednesday, January 28th 2004 | bc2

Posted on 01/29/2004 8:34:01 AM PST by bc2

Please pass this along to friends, family, and interested co-workers-


BILL # S6056/A9556

In his budget proposal, Governor Pataki has proposed a new State licensing scheme for handguns. He is expecting to raise up to $35 Million from the wallets of handgun owners.

I do not normally send out e-mails like this, but this time it's too important not to. Please read the following information and remember that even if you do not own pistols, YOUR LONG GUNS WILL PROBABLY BE AFFECTED IN THE FUTURE. New York City already has permits and licensing for all firearms, including pistols, rifles, and shotguns. We do not want that to become the reality for the entire State of New York.

The proposed NYS Budget legislation, (S6065/A9556), would make several changes to the licensing procedures and laws for pistols in New York State. The legislation:

1. Creates a 5 year renewable license.

2. Would mandate expiration of all existing NYS Pistol Permits on 1 February 2005. If your NYS pistol permit does not have an expiration date, this law would make your permit expire on 1 February 2005.

3. Mandates a $100 renewal fee. The $100 is a STATE fee. The County Clerks will have to raise their fees to compensate for the additional work load which will require more staff in most of the larger counties. This could mean either higher County fees on top of this or higher property tax paid by everybody.

4. $25 amendment fee. If the transaction fee is $25 for the state, the County Clerk will also have to add $5 or $10 more. There is no cap to this addition.

5. Allows a judge to review your license every 5 years and make any changes he might find necessary.

6. Increases Dealer and Gunsmith license renewal fees to $100

7. *** Requires you to list all "firearms" (note: the definition of firearm under penal law includes almost all privately owned guns and also includes any firearm that falls under the definition of an assault weapon) you own at renewal.

8. Does not restrict localities in the amount they can charge for application or renewal of pistol license. (Confiscation of pistols through excessive taxation)

*** THIS is the gun registration that everyone said would never happen in New York State. Pistol Permit holders will be affected immediately by this law, but as we have seen in the past, the law will soon extend to all other guns, all across the State. If this bill is passed, it is only a matter of time before the rest of New York State follows NYC's lead in registration and licensing of ALL rifles and shotguns.

The new renewal issue, its $100 fee, and the $25 amendment fee, are perfect examples of an unfunded mandate, where the state gains the revenue and the county taxpayers pay additional property taxes to perform the renewals and amendments. The basic right of having a pistol will be denied to the working stiff because of the high fees. This is what's known as "confiscation through taxation". The Governor and Legislature might have a fear of enacting outright firearm registration, but who pays attention to something as simple as the budget? Once this type of legislation becomes law, there will be no chance to do anything about it. The precedent will be set for State-wide registration of all firearms.

This budget legislation could be voted on as soon as February. It is very important to both call and write the following NYS Senators and Assemblymen and tell them to VOTE NO on these bills, and to call on them to push for the removal of this language in the budget bill.

In addition, there is also language that describes an increase of the fee required to register ATV's. I believe this would include all 2, 3, and 4 wheeled, non street-legal vehicles (INCLUDING snowmobiles). This is another example of confiscation through taxation, and must also be stopped before it can be enacted.

Please call and write the following list of NYS Senators and Assemblymen tha t I have compiled. A two-minute telephone call and a $0.37 stamp WILL make a difference. Of special consideration is Sen. Johnson, who is the Chairman of the Finance committee where this bill has been referred.

After years of notoriously late budgets, legislators in Albany have said that this will be the year that they "fast track" the budget to get it through in time. Do not let them get a chance to pass and enact this harmful legislation.

Please use the attached document to contact your State Legislators. Add your name and address to the top in the space provided, your name to the bottom, print and sign this letter. I have included a list of names and addresses for various Legislators. Please take 5 minutes to print this out, make an envelope, and drop it in the mailbox. Follow up with a two-minute telephone call. This issue is far too important to ignore.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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NY Gun bill.

This response submitted by RC on 01/29/2004. ( )

Left out the word "bill" in title.
Sorry for the double post, the trigger finger was twitching.

Ohhh, Please

This response submitted by George Wallace on 01/29/2004. ( )

Thats not that bad, there just following our state.
We have the same fees, kind sucks, they just went into affect last year.
Our F.I.D. cards were good for LIFE then they decided to phase them out..
Want a good laugh folks ?
In Our state, if you have a girlfreind, boyfreind, or whatever you have, lol, if they wanted to carry Pepper Spray (Mase some call it)
You have to pay the $ 100.00 every 5 years to carry or have on you...
Fight this while you can New Yorkers, cause if you don't you may regret it, trouble is, they keep trying to get it through..
George Wallace


This response submitted by r. stanton on 01/29/2004. ( )

does this 100 fee go straight into the states welfare program? Or are they saving it for 'reparations?' Can i get an exemption for money lost in a prior robbery? (one should at least get a partial refund after being murdered).
I will leave New York State and never look back before i put up with any more of this! Leave it to the mud people to stay here and collect heap and a welfare check...

This is a bad one

This response submitted by Paul I on 01/29/2004. ( )

This one will go threw because it has a kickback for all the wrong people.Im afraid we dont have a chance because they need money bad and they will do anything to get it.This state is full of leaches that drain us dry.I wont turn mine in however because its saved my butt twice.

A letter to Chucky and Hillary?

This response submitted by Jerry C on 01/29/2004. ( )

I'll write letters, but I cna just see our socialist senators reading them. They are probably drooling over it right now.

Not Me

This response submitted by Hell or high water on 01/29/2004. ( )

Here is a novel idea, MOVE! If they don't have the people to pay for the license they will have to get it somewhere else!

That state never ceases to amaze me

This response submitted by Cecil Baird ( ) on 01/30/2004. ( )

It literally taxes the crap out of its citizens.

Richard, I'm not worried

This response submitted by Cecil Baird ( ) on 01/30/2004. ( )

Indiana is the last in the nation to pass any kind of law. We still don't believe in Daylight Savings time (except for a few border counties). I guess being backwards can be good sometimes.

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