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Submitted by Alex on 1/23/05 at 3:49 PM. ( )

Churches barred from 'gay' discrimination
New measure requires religious groups to hire homosexuals

Posted: January 22, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


Illinois churches are protesting a new state law that bars them from "discriminating" against homosexuals, contending it robs Christians of their First Amendment freedoms.

Gov. Rod Blagojevich signed the bill into law yesterday amid a demonstration led by the Illinois Family Institute, or IFI, a non-profit group affiliated with Focus on the Family, Family Research Council and Alliance Defense Fund.

The measure adds "sexual orientation" to the state law that bars discrimination based on race, religion and similar traits in areas such as jobs and housing.

The bill was signed to loud cheers and a standing ovation from about 150 homosexual-rights supporters who see it as a human-rights issue.

"This legislation sends a clear message that we will not allow our citizens to be discriminated against," Blagojevich said in a statement.

"What we're doing today is older than scripture: Love thy neighbor," the governor told the audience yesterday, according to the Associated Press. "It's what Jesus said when he gave his Sermon on the Mount: 'Do unto others what you would have others do unto you."'

Illinois is the 15th state to prohibit discrimination based on "sexual orientation."

But IFI Executive Director Peter LaBarbera notes the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Carol Ronen, D-Chicago, is on record stating it should be applied to churches, meaning they would not be allowed, for example, to reject a job applicant who practices homosexual behavior.

Ronen said: "If that is their goal, to discriminate against gay people, this law wouldn't allow them to do that. But I don't believe that's what the Catholic Church wants or stands for."

LaBarbera argues politicians who don't view homosexuality as a sin have no right to take away the freedom of churches and people of faith to disagree.

"Since when do politicians get to interpret sacred religious teachings for the rest of us?" he said.

The law applies to organizations or businesses with more than 15 employees.

LaBarbera points out the Illinois law firm Ungaretti & Harris, which specializes in labor and employment issues, published an analysis of the measure, which says, "While many such municipal prohibitions on sexual orientation discrimination expressly exempt religious organizations from their coverage, the new amendment to Illinois' Human Rights Act does not."

The analysis says, "The question inevitably presented by this omission is whether the Bill will be applied to compel religious organizations to set aside convictions about homosexuality when making employment decisions. ... The measure may ultimately force courts to consider and balance its ban on sexual orientation discrimination with State and Federal constitutional safeguards of religious freedom."

LaBarbera says that with enactment of this law, government is coming down on one side of a heated moral controversy by forcing the acceptance of homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality.

"It's about saying that 'gay rights' are more important than religious freedoms, and we hope ultimately it will be struck down in court," he said.

The bill was passed on the last day of a lame-duck legislative session after a campaign by the state's leading homosexual lobby, Equality Illinois.

Commented LaBarbera: "There is no societal consensus for homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality as the basis for civil rights -- and certainly none for the idea that the 'rights' of homosexual should trump those of churches and people of faith to live our their rational belief that homosexuality is unnatural, wrong and harmful to those who practice it."

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This response submitted by cur on 1/23/05 at 3:51 PM. ( )

Someone has to blow out all those candles.

Leviticus 18:22

This response submitted by oldshaver on 1/23/05 at 4:38 PM. ( )

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

I can't see it happening

This response submitted by Hogger on 1/23/05 at 4:48 PM. ( )

With churches being a not-for-profit organization. Never mind the reliqious aspect. Sounds like another attack against Christianity. I imagine the Muslim religion rejects homosexuality. Let them get on the bandwagon and watch the government libs back off. Way off!

And Romans 1:24-32

This response submitted by KB on 1/23/05 at 5:33 PM. ( )

I can't see the government going after any Muslim organization who didn't accept homosexuality...that would be waaaayyy too politically incorrect.


This response submitted by Steve on 1/23/05 at 6:57 PM. ( )

If they want to discriminate, why should they be told not to. They should be allowed to hate anyone they want, and to tell their members to hate certain people as well. Its not like gay people are really people anyway!


This response submitted by oldshaver on 1/23/05 at 7:25 PM. ( )

Its not hate, its disgust. True Christianity does not acknowledge this idealology, nor should we be EXPECTED to except it. They are people, but they are sick.

I say LOL

This response submitted by Bradlee on 1/23/05 at 8:13 PM. ( )

At least something seems to be getting mounted around here these days . When does this have anything to do with us ? I know this is a free forum but the only one to solve this one is GOD himself . Now we can judge too ? HMMMMMM , Wish I knew that one when I did my first divorce folks ! LOL
Oh well , Bad day for Bradlee again here so sorry I blew off somw steam again .I know I am out of line here on this game , But , didn't realise the knowlage of how GOD thinks . Sorry once again folks , and peace to all . Bradlee

What was that ?

This response submitted by Bradlee on 1/23/05 at 8:14 PM. ( )

I meant to spell some ! Not somw ! Bradlee

He already solved it!

This response submitted by oldshaver on 1/23/05 at 9:00 PM. ( )

And tells you how he thinks. Its called a Bible. I dont care who you mount, but dont expect me to accept "IT" as "NORMAL". Even a thief has better sense that to announce his indescretions in public!


This response submitted by os on 1/23/05 at 9:03 PM. ( )

? Me too Bradlee.

The gender confused

This response submitted by Mr. T on 1/23/05 at 9:52 PM. ( )

They have the same rights that we do, why do they need more? Why should we cut them slack for being gender confused? We are not homophobic. Phobias are a real mental illness. Just because we don't agree with the way they live and have sex, doesn't make us mental sick. If anyone had a phobia, wouldn't it be them? I wish we had a real way of cleaning the elected officials out of office other than voting.


This response submitted by Indiana Trapper on 1/23/05 at 9:54 PM. ( )

Another waste of forum broadband.


This response submitted by Alex on 1/23/05 at 11:17 PM. ( )

God was the first taxidermist;
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

So he belongs on this forum as well,LOL

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