Sheriff Joe Arpaio (AR) who created the "tent city jail

Submitted by b bishop/ Republican on 1/28/05 at 10:00 AM. ( ) 65.73.67.183

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for
them.

He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their
weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.

He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.

Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for
discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.

He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

More on the Arizona Sheriff:

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in
Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the
Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a
barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.

Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their
chests and dripped down to their pink socks. "It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 ? years. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"

Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.

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Way To Go Sherrif

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/28/05 at 10:42 AM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

You bring the level of Taxidermy disscussion on this cite to a new level.

Maybe, the new Attorney General nominee can write another memo on just how far you and your Nazi sherrif can go in abusing prisoners.

Seems most prisoners are in his jail for DWI and failure to pay child support, however they are probably really guilty of worse crimes. They will confess with a little rubber hose treatment. Good work Sherrif! Now install AMERICAN FLAG TOLIET PAPER OR US CONSTITUTION TOLIET PAPER and you will have completed your job as Sherrif by crapping all over the Flag and the Freedom so many have Honorably served and died to protect.

One of the reasons we need a constitution is to protect us from the sherrif and his right thinking cohorts. Wish your son was in there, with your black booted nazi in charge. We would see how fast your tune would change. My Dad killed nazis and dictators, He didn't Honor them. Shame on you and your poor excuse for a sherrif.


HOW

This response submitted by Alex on 1/28/05 at 11:04 AM. ( ) 66.32.84.238

come i don't hear the liberals complaining of human right violations there and we ahere how bad the terrorists are treated in Guantanamo ?


I like that Sheriff!

This response submitted by John C on 1/28/05 at 11:05 AM. ( ) 70.178.74.104

MO.Gov. Matt Blount took away the X boxes and other video games. Why should being in Prison or Jail be a holiday?

Tent city is fine for Prisoners. If soldier can live in them so can Thiefs and the rest.

Easy way for those guilty of DWI and Failure to pay child support can stay out is not to Drink and Drive and get their ass to wrok and pay the child support.

As a retired Soldier I back the Sheriff, he in noway resembles Nazi or Gestopo tactics.

ByGolly your right up there with Willy and Hillary.


OOOps correction./ How

This response submitted by Alex on 1/28/05 at 11:06 AM. ( ) 66.32.84.238

come i don't hear the liberals complaining of human right violations there and we hear how bad the terrorists are treated in Guantanamo ?

I need my morning coffee


hey

This response submitted by michael sestak on 1/28/05 at 11:56 AM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

by golly, if these prisoners are being abused, then so are our soldiers who are fighting to keep you safe.
i like this sheriff and would vote for him if i could.
it sounds like you were in a prison once or twice or more,
sheriff joe doesnt give them anymore than our government gives our soldiers.
you mean to tell me that its okay with you if prisoners convicted of murder, child abuse, rape, beating old women, etc..
get free medical, dental, eye care, operations, medication, cable t.v., air conditioning, meals, clothing, and some still get to collect a disability check while in jail too.
while our soldiers have to suffer 24/7 just to protect your whining butt.
that cant be what you're saying is it...
i support this guy all the way, as a matter of fact i believe that he was sued once and when it got to court he simply stated the facts..
improve conditions for our troops and i'll improve the conditions for the inmates, they get the same treatment...no more..no less.

he won the suit...

Michael


ByGolly

This response submitted by Remmy on 1/28/05 at 12:01 PM. ( ) 69.179.3.175

ByGolly..You state that most prisoners are in jail for DWI, or not paying child support? Well, number one, not paying child support should be an offense that puts a man next in line in the chain gang. Seems he should be supporting his child..or do you believe that a man should have a few nights of fun, and leave a child and not worry about them?
Final note..Do you know that the one thing that 74% of inmates in the US have in common? They grew up in a fatherless household. So, next time you pass off not paying child support as just some mild offense..open your eyes and get a clue!
If people with your mindset would start accepting responsibility, and stop begging the government for handouts, this country would become much stronger.


John C, Another Great Humanitarian

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/28/05 at 12:07 PM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

John C. :If soldier can live in them so can Thiefs and the rest."

So soldiers, thieves and the rest, receive equal treatment. That makes it ok.

Maybe Rummy, Georgy, and the Halliburton mouthpiece will pony up some of the profits for a little Kevlar for the soldiers.

The Jewell of Arizona, probably already has a Kevlar suit paid for by tax dollars under by Homeland Security.

Prisoners won't request any Kevlar until the sherrif starts shooting a few of them a day.


John C, Another Great Humanitarian

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/28/05 at 12:07 PM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

John C. :If soldier can live in them so can Thiefs and the rest."

So soldiers, thieves and the rest, receive equal treatment. That makes it ok.

Maybe Rummy, Georgy, and the Halliburton mouthpiece will pony up some of the profits for a little Kevlar for the soldiers.

The Jewell of Arizona, probably already has a Kevlar suit paid for by tax dollars under by Homeland Security.

Prisoners won't request any Kevlar until the sherrif starts shooting a few of them a day.


Bet his repeat offender rate is way down.

This response submitted by Pirate on 1/28/05 at 12:12 PM. ( ) 151.196.98.43

Prisoners should have the bare minimum to keep the cost to the tax payer down. When you try to take up for criminals remember everyone of them had choice to not break the law. Do the crime, do the time. In Arizona it just happens to be in a tent. It's not like this hasn't been on tv, expecially in AZ. If you go to that town and commit a crime you must be even more stupid then the average criminal. I have no pity for criminals, even if it was someone I knew.


Well , the truth be known

This response submitted by Craig on 1/28/05 at 1:10 PM. ( ) 66.66.226.122

An older person I know has a nephew down there that was thrown in this tent city for some minor misdemeanor charge. I don't remember exactly what it was but it was pretty minor according to her. He did his time was eventually released and did his best to stay out of there. He was entered into a work program to prove his worth but he was late to work "one" day because his car broke down and guess what...another six months of HELL without any reason other than he should have been on time. That seems to me to be slightly abusive of the system.

I agree with what this sheriff is doing but it should be happening countrywide with the hardcore murderers, rapists, armed robbers, etc. Minor offenses or legitimate excuses should be addressed in a manner indicative of the civilized society in which we profess to live.


Joe Vs the Truth

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/28/05 at 1:44 PM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio - The truth about America's Toughest Sheriff.


Sheriff Joe Arpaio vs. The Truth
Sheriff Joe Arpaio takes credit for many things where the credit is not his to take. It is time for some truth about the sheriff.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Sheriff claims he has a .50 caliber machine gun for use in shooting down terrorist aircraft or explosive laden tractor-trailer rigs. He also claims the machine gun is the only one owned by a U.S. law enforcement agency.

Truth: The part about the gun being the only one in U.S. law enforcement is probably true and for good reason. Other police chiefs and sheriffs realize that a .50 caliber machine gun is so powerful and so dangerous that it has no place in civilian police work. As to shooting down airplanes and destroying trucks loaded with explosives, how would Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio know which ones to shoot at? It is highly unlikely that the terrorists would notify authorities when and where they are going to strike so the gun could be put in place. Also, Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that, unlike the U.S. Air Force, he needs no presidential authority before shooting down airplanes.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Norberg wrongful death lawsuit was settled out of court for $8.25 million. Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio has repeatedly claimed that this cost the taxpayers nothing since it was paid by an insurance company.

Truth: At the time of the settlement the county had a $1 million "deductible" on its coverage. The taxpayers had to pay the first $1,000,000 on this case and now the deductible has been raised to $5 million.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He arrested Elvis Presley.

Truth: Actually, Sheriff Joe Arpaio sometimes claims to have arrested Elvis and other times he claims to have stopped him for a traffic violation. No police records nor Presley family records have ever surfaced to show any contact between Elvis and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He invented the idea of housing prisoners in tents.

Truth: The Arizona Department of Corrections has used tents for decades. Facilities in other states also used tents before Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He claims credit for feeding green bologna (surplus food) to inmates.

Truth: Jails and prisons here in Arizona and all over the county feed surplus food to inmates and have done so for many years.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was a Korean War veteran.

Truth: This one is tricky. He was in the Army during the Korean War but he never set foot there. His overseas assignment was in France.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Toughest Sheriff in America".

Truth: This is a title he gave himself. During his years as sheriff he has not made even one arrest and, on those rare occasions where he was present when an arrest was necessary , others had to do it.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the County" and has authority over all police departments and the DPS.

Truth: Another meaningless title. He has no authority over other police agencies.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He broke the famous "French Connection."

Truth: The people really involved in this case never heard of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was involved in "numerous gun battels" and "weekly shootout" as a DEA agent.

Truth: Virtually no one in the police business believes these claims. There would be something desperately wrong with any police officer that gets into weekly shootout.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Wants people to think he created the posse program.

Truth: The modern day posse program dates back to the 1930s. These volunteer groups provide a wide range of important services to the county including search and rescue, enforcement support, and community crime prevention. Many of the posse members resent being used by Sheriff Joe Arpaio for publicity stunts like the "Van Buren Street Prostitution Patrol."

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Recidivism in the jails was reduced during his time as sheriff.

Truth: Sheriff Joe Arpaio spent $10,000 in taxpayer money to have Arizona State University study recidivism in the jail system. The result showed that there was no change in the rate at which inmates returned to jail. Sheriff Joe Arpaio immediately declared that ASU was wrong.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Prior to his election he declared that the sheriff should be an appointed position like that of chiefs of police and that he would only serve one term.

Truth: Within weeks of his election he "changed his mind" and announced he would run for another term.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: On the two occasions where he spent a night in the tent city jail he claimed that there were no special security arrangements to protect him.

Truth: The Sheriff's Office Tactical Operations Unit (SWAT TEAM) was on-duty, on overtime, all night, guarding him from a nearby building.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He built the tent city jail because of overcrowding in the regular jails.

Truth: To insure there were enough inmates for the much publicized tent city jail he closed an entire floor of the First Avenue Jail.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He has saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Truth: He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in legal fees, lawsuits, attorneys fees, settlements, judgments, photographs of himself, videos of himself, and maintaining his personal public relations staff.


Sorry fellows, but he still looks like a power drunk, fact manipulating, propaganda creating nazi to me. Just a plain old fashioned nut case .

Heil Joe!


Great Sheriff

This response submitted by Scott on 1/28/05 at 1:54 PM. ( ) 63.98.3.69

I didn't read all the responses as I don't have to...I think the Sheriff is doing the right thing and more jurisdictions should quit playing 'butler' to the inmates. I was in the first gulf war and lived a hellofa lot worse than that. I could go on all day how I would like to fix things. Maybe someday I'll get a chance as I'm a Deputy now and have the future to look forward to.


ByGolly

This response submitted by DavidE. on 1/28/05 at 2:09 PM. ( ) 205.168.249.154

If one of these poor prisoners had committed a terrible offense against a loved one in your family, would you still feel the same? Would you fight for them to have Ac, T.V., three square meals, Etc. I appreciate your father fighting for our country and our rights as citizens of the USA. These same prisoners actually trampled on those rights and laws to begin with so shame on them!


Bygooly whats good enough for soldiers is really to damn

This response submitted by John C on 1/28/05 at 6:07 PM. ( ) 70.178.74.104

good for prisoners.

Get your fact straight or are just another lying hyprocritical liberal?

More power to the Sheriff, if its so bad why has the Federal Government allowed it to continue.


John C...A True Democrat

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/29/05 at 11:27 AM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

Thinks the Federal Goverment can solve all our problems.


John C...A True Democrat

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/29/05 at 11:28 AM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

Thinks the Federal Goverment can solve all our problems.


BY Golly

This response submitted by David on 2/1/05 at 1:32 AM. ( ) 12.216.128.186

This is not and should not be about Soldiers. Something I have never been, BTW.

When I wanted to "join up" right out of H.S., years ago, my Ex-Marine-D.I.Father , who did three tous in 'Nam, absolutely forbid it.

He figured he killed enough and bleed enough, that he paid the "Butchers Bill", in Full, for all his descendants.

He is my Father, I did not against his Wishes. Then, or even Now, come to think about it, even in my own Middle age, but I digress.

This whole Issue is not about the hardships which a Soldier endures. They sign up for it, willingly and with full prior Knowledge.

My best Friend, who was Best-man at my Wedding 21 years ago, just as I was Best-man at his 25 years ago, recently got back from a year in Kosovo. An Ex-marine too ,oddly enough, who missed the Service, [No, he ain't very Smart but he is a Great Guy,LOL] so he joined the Guard. He did not want to go to Kosova for a year, he did not want to miss his Youngest Childs , his baby Girls HS Graduation either.

But he had less than two years to go before his Retirement and like he said, "I knew what I was doing, when I signed up for it." (Joining the Service, he meant)

I take EXTREME exception to any comparisons of that which a Criminal endures to that which an Honorable person VOLUNTEERS to do.

Regardless, the conditions of the Prisoners is Inhumane and to treat them so is Wrong.


It is one thing to endure that which you must, for the greater Good and to Protect that which you love. It is a completely different thing to inflict an Inhumane condition on a weaker or captive person. To do so is dishonorable and cowardly. Something which the very Soldier that you "hold up" would prevent, if they could.

This Sheriff is a real-life Barney Fife, don;t listen to me, run a google search on this Clown & read about him sometime. He is Barney wrapped up in the Ego of P.T. Barnum.

And the nextime you want to have a debate and drag a Soldier into it, think of whether that which you are defending is something a Soldier would Defend.....


David

This response submitted by ByGolly on 2/1/05 at 10:52 PM. ( ) 63.170.184.201

I agree with you. If you read the posts it was sherrif Joe and other posters that brought the soldiers into the discussion. I have nothing but respect for soldiers.


average joe and or jane

This response submitted by Joyce on 2/3/05 at 10:48 PM. ( ) 66.185.233.131

I am so glad to see this tent city jail, and I agree it should be applied everywhere. My husband and my two sons work in prisons in Michigan and believe me I think prisoners have to much, so much more than our students at school. I had to pay for my children to attend college and inmates in regular prisons have a free opportunity for a high school deploma or college degree. The system is all messed up when criminals have more rights than the law abiding average joe. Way to go Arizona. I plan on a visit to see this tent city jail soon.


Mom, sister, daughter of soldiers

This response submitted by Gerri on 2/6/05 at 1:35 PM. ( ) 67.34.34.250

To ByGolly,
After your indepth tutorial. I realized just how ignorant you are. The sheriff has the right mind set. Criminals should not have the luxuries of the outside world because they have choosen to disobey the laws of the land. The public should not have to pay for the conviences alotted to them. Take away the weights, cable TV, hot meals 3 x a day, schooling, and replace these with program to show how to live with the laws of society. They can work for us, the public, cleaning the roads of debris, repairing roads and buildings, keeping the parks clean etc. This would save the people of this country millions of dollars for upkeep and teach them responsibility. Hats off to the sheriff.


We should do the right thing

This response submitted by Parole Officer on 2/8/05 at 3:56 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.133

I must say that I agree with most of the posts. I have been a Parole Officer in the State of Texas for a great many of years now and have seen offenders come and go. Some have returned to society a more productive person and some just don't give a damn. But let me tell y'all what I do know. Offenders in the State of Texas pay for the college that they receive while they are locked up. When they come out on parole they have a "school" bill that they must pay before they discharge from Parole. They do take GED class's and receive there GED if they are in long enough which, if y'all really think about it is a GREAT thing. Now they can, if they wish, to be more productive citizens when they have finished there time. Instead of stealing and robbing people in order to surrive. Point #2. Many prisons in Texas produce there own food in order to feed the offenders. This keeps the tax money down and it also gives the offenders a since of accomplishment and self worth. Now by NO MEANS do I think that criminals need a 5 star prison but if we expect and want them to "do the right thing" when they are relassed then we need to give them the tools in order to do it. Some offenders have "no clue" how to surrive on the outside world because they have never been shown. I know I am going to get a lot of flack from this but take my word on it, I see it EVERY DAY (7 days a week, 24 hours a day, yes I work that much).


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