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Submitted by .. on 1/30/05 at 6:58 PM. ( )

CHACALTAYA GLACIER, Bolivia - Up and down the icy spine of South America, the glaciers are melting, the white mantle of the Andes Mountains washing away at an ever faster rate. "Look. You can see. Chacaltaya has split in two," scientist Edson Ramirez said as he led a visitor up toward a once-grand ice flow high in the thin air of the Bolivian cordillera.

In the distance below, beneath drifting clouds, sprawled 2-mile-high La Paz, a growing city that survives on the water running off the shoulders of these treeless peaks.

Chacaltaya, a frozen storehouse of such water, will be gone in seven to eight years, said Ramirez, a Bolivian glaciologist, or ice specialist.

"Some small glaciers like this have already disappeared," he said as melting icicles dripped on nearby rock, exposed for the first time in millennia. "In the next 10 years, many more will."

They'll disappear far beyond Bolivia. From Alaska in the north, to Montana's Glacier National Park, to the great ice fields of wild Patagonia at this continent's southern tip, the "rivers of ice" that have marked landscapes from prehistory are liquefying, shrinking, retreating.

In east Africa, the storied snows of Mount Kilimanjaro are vanishing. In the icebound Alps and Himalayas of Europe and Asia, the change has been stunning. From South America to south Asia, new glacial lakes threaten to overflow and drown villages below.

In the past few years, space satellites have helped measure the global trend, but scientists such as Rajendra K. Pachauri, a native of north India, have long seen what was happening on the ground.

"I know from observation," Pachauri told a reporter at an international climate conference in Argentina. "If you go to the Himalayan peaks, the rate at which the glaciers are retreating is alarming. And this is not an isolated example. I've seen photographs of Mount Kilimanjaro 50 years ago and now. The evidence is visible."

"Ample" evidence indicates that global warming is causing glaciers to retreat worldwide, reports the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a U.N.-sponsored network of climate scientists led by Pachauri.

Global temperatures rose about 1 degree Fahrenheit in the 20th century. French glaciologists working with Ramirez and other scientists at La Paz's San Andres University estimate that the Bolivian Andes are warming even faster, currently at a half-degree Fahrenheit per decade.

The warming will continue as long as "greenhouse gases," primarily carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, accumulate in the atmosphere, say the U.N. panel and other authoritative scientific organizations.

The Kyoto Protocol (news - web sites), an international agreement, mandates cutbacks in such emissions, but the reductions are small and the United States, the biggest emitter, is not a party, arguing that the mandates will set back the U.S. economy.

As that pact takes effect Feb. 16, the impact of climate change is already apparent.

An international study concluded in November that winter temperatures have risen as much as 7 degrees Fahrenheit over 50 years in the Arctic, where permafrost is thawing and sea ice is shrinking. Pacific islands are losing land to encroaching seas, oceans expanding as they warm and as they receive runoff from the Greenland ice cap and other sources.

Those sources include at least one gushing new river of meltwater in western China, where thousands of Himalayan and other glaciers are shrinking. In the Italian Alps, 10 percent of the ice melted away in the European heat wave of 2003 and experts fear all will be gone in 20 to 30 years.

Such rapid runoff would do more than feed rising seas. It would end centuries of reliable flows through populated lands, jeopardizing water supplies for human consumption, agriculture and electricity.

In Peru, endowed with vast Andean ice caps and glaciers, 70 percent of the power comes from hydroelectric dams catching runoff, but officials fear much of it could be gone within a decade. Meanwhile, new mountainside lakes are bulging from the melt, threatening to break their banks and devastate nearby towns.

Here in impoverished Bolivia, the government has barely begun to plan for climate change.

Tomas Quisbert, a hydrological engineer with the water company serving the 2 million people of the La Paz region, said 95 percent of its supplies come from the mountains, either rain runoff or glacier melt. "But we can't say precisely how much comes from the glaciers," he said.

Ramirez and fellow scientists are seeking government support to do a complete assessment of water in the La Paz basin, linked to computer modeling of future regional climate and its impact.

They'll soon move on from 17,500-foot-high Chacaltaya ("Cold Road" in the native Aymara language) as it shrinks toward oblivion. But in 13 years of intense study of the glacier, the scientists have gathered a rich lode of data representative of countless small glaciers across the region.

A rugged hour's drive up from La Paz, with a simple mountain lodge beside it, Chacaltaya was once the world's highest ski slope. But no one has skied down its tongue of snow-coated ice since 1998. The melt has exposed rock right across its midsection, splitting the glacier in two.

It covers an area of less than 15 acres, with ice less than 26 feet thick. Ramirez said it lost two-thirds of its mass in the 1990s alone, and is now probably a mere 2 percent the size it once was.

Chacaltaya and other Andean glaciers had been retreating since the 18th century, when the "Little Ice Age" ended locally, but the rate has picked up dramatically in recent decades, melting three times faster since the 1980s than in the mid-20th century.

Although rising temperatures are an underlying factor, glaciologists find a complex cycle at work: A warming Pacific Ocean has created disruptive El Nino climate periods more frequently and powerfully, reducing precipitation, including snows to replenish glaciers. Less snow also means glaciers that are less white, more gray, absorbing more heat. Newly exposed rock walls then act like an oven to further speed melting.

Whatever the regional wrinkles, "it's a global view," said Lonnie Thompson, one of the world's foremost glaciologists.

"What we see in the Andes is happening in Kilimanjaro and in the Himalayas. We've just been in southeast Alaska, and 1,987 out of 2,000 glaciers are retreating there," the Ohio State University scientist said in a telephone interview from Columbus.

"It's a very compelling story," he said. The glaciers "water towers of the world" are the most visible indicators that we are now in the first phase of global warming, Thompson said.

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This response submitted by os on 1/30/05 at 7:26 PM. ( )

I see the last remnants of a lost election are still hanging around.


This response submitted by paul on 1/30/05 at 7:40 PM. ( )

the last tuffs of hair are gradually sliping from my once full head of hair exposing my glaring dome. the light reflecting off of this dome towards these snow covered peaks and glaciers surely will not help the problem, what do you suggest i should do?

Dork doesn't have a CLUE about Kyoto protocol

This response submitted by George on 1/30/05 at 8:07 PM. ( georoof@aol.com )

Besides being gutless with no name, he's copied and pasted the propoganda being parroted by the mentally challenged. "The US is the largest emitter"? A real CROCK. Russia and China are, but they are excempt from most of this. This is a Socialist entreaty to destroy big business in industrialized nations, mainly the US, so we can all live in the squalor of the third world abyss.


This response submitted by Ken on 1/30/05 at 8:45 PM. ( () )

Our sun is going to evolve into a red giant and we all will fry!(In about a billion years or so.)

More info on that

This response submitted by KB on 1/30/05 at 9:40 PM. ( )

from a calmer persective, can be found at www.icr.org searching under "global warming" or something similar. And http://answersingenesis.org


This response submitted by the Watcher on 1/30/05 at 10:18 PM. ( )

If you read the bible you will see that global warming will not destroy the world God has reserved that for Him self and it will make globle warming seem like air condtion.


This response submitted by KB on 1/30/05 at 10:55 PM. ( )

to that


This response submitted by Bradlee on 1/31/05 at 8:57 AM. ( )

It would killeth us all , but , if we all launched every nuke at the same time , and the world was even still existing , that bringeth forth nuclear winter and cooleth the planet off ! LOL Some FOOL someday will probably suggest that ! Hope my butt is gone way before that time ! LOL

According to events

This response submitted by cur on 1/31/05 at 8:02 PM. ( )

Global warming began when the great Wisconsin sheet ice began to retreat.....that was more than 10,000 years ago. It stands to reason that the more earth exposed to warming by the sun would amplify the process. Granted our use of carbon based fuels and wasteful emissions do contribute to the process, it is not at man's hand alone. If you look at timelines for existing Glaciers, you will se a steady shrinkage over the last 1000's of years.

Stick around, a little red-eyed virus is hiding in the ooze somewhere, waiting for a chance to emerge and wipe out a chunk of mankind. After that event there will be fewer of us to pollute our environment.......Did I say, $crew the Kyoto BS?

There is a fellow down here who rides the beach three times a month on a four-wheeler equiped with a kinetic GPS. He is part of a global project that is mapping shoreline erosion due to rising waters. In 100 years, my canal house will be beach front property, or so it seems. I can't wait for the value to go up....LOL.

First of all.........Cur

This response submitted by ByGolly on 1/31/05 at 9:09 PM. ( )

If your house was beachfront, how far would it be to the canal behind it?
Seems to me this could make it hard to get the boat out of the slip?

Never thought much about global warming. Now i'm worried about how to get the boat out. This could be the end of fishing as we know it.

Watcher...God will not destroy this earth...

This response submitted by Craig on 2/1/05 at 12:17 AM. ( )

he made that promise to mankind after the great flood. He will be the one that "saves mankind" from destroying it. That's the part when Christ returns to rule the earth. Keep reading you apparently haven't got that far yet.

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