Cave Paintings

Submitted by rc on 2/16/05 at 7:40 AM. ( ) 67.140.200.95

http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/chauvet/en/index.html These paintings were discovered a few years ago by three spelunkers near Pont d' Arc, France. At 30,000 years old they are the earliest known. They exceed the age of the cave paintings at Lascaux by 15,000 years. The website takes you on a tour of the cavern.

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Hmmm

This response submitted by George on 2/16/05 at 11:43 AM. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.100.135

And not one single dinosaur in the painting. Imagine that.


Cool, huh?

This response submitted by Kim on 2/16/05 at 12:42 PM. ( ) 69.171.249.149

Please, don't make fun of my drawings.


Dinosaur drawing

This response submitted by John Wilkie on 2/16/05 at 12:57 PM. ( ) 199.253.126.2

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/Area/AnswersBook/dinosaurs19.asp


John, you have to do better than that

This response submitted by George on 2/16/05 at 2:34 PM. ( ) 64.12.116.135

That's a creationists site who believes the Bible is a literal history. The FIRST thing they do is show their foolishness and start talking about YEARS. A year wasn't even understood until the Augustinian calendar came along. It was used exclusively during the actual writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls and it was TRANSPOSED from the verbal stories being passed along from generations. Yet the Augustinian calendar was WRONG. It was actually 2 months shorter than the actual celestial calendar and was corrected with the Gregorian calendar which added July for Julius Caesar,and November. Why do you think the 12th month is called DECember (deca - remember?) Still later tweaking counted for the few seconds and minutes left over and February was adjusted between 28 and 29 days (and just in case it escapes your creationsists website, there were still extra minutes adding up and one day in the future, February will actually have a 30th day once every millinea). I just don't understand how you insist on LITERAL interpretation of the Bible and then try to use days and years which never existed to explain to people like me what actually happened.

And there ARE NO DINOSAURS in the cave painting because the dinosaurs all perished before man appeared on the scene. Those cave paintings are the EARLIEST evidence and proof of the animals that shared the world with the very first human beings.


It's obvious that

This response submitted by KB on 2/16/05 at 3:33 PM. ( ) 65.161.239.4

George won't even consider READING the information if it is on a "creationist" website, even though most of the scientists whose articles appear on the website have all the same secular education degrees that evolutionist scientists have. If he read the article, he would see the photo of the dinosaur. I have a photo of what looks like a pteradactyl from a pictograph in a canyon in central Utah. I took the photo myself, so I know it is real. I suppose George would say it was painted recently.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/stone.asp will tell of many more examples, from different sources. I suppose none of these people are trustworthy, and none of them know what they really saw, and the multitude of evidence is all fake, huh? That is the only way scientists whose god is evolution can deal with things like this.

I have no idea what the year and date argument has to do with this. As far as I can tell, no one in the Old Testament had trouble figuring out how to tell time. As far as the LITERAL interpretation of the Bible goes, God made it clear in the Hebrew language what was to be taken literally, and if people don't want to do that today, it is because they want to be the god of their own lives. The evidence is out there for those who care enough about God to study it. It is not blind faith.


toilet seat

This response submitted by ken on 2/16/05 at 8:25 PM. ( ! ) 154.11.109.30

I saw a Tyrannosaurus Rex eat a guy right off a toilet seat at a place called Jurrassic Park so I know it`s real.


I read the website..

This response submitted by .. on 2/16/05 at 8:41 PM. ( ) 4.225.171.172

posted by John W. What a farce! Read the portion on how all of the worlds animals could fit on the Ark. This stuff had to be written by a third grader.


KB, do you speak Hebrew?

This response submitted by George on 2/16/05 at 10:35 PM. ( ) 152.163.100.135

Neither do I and scholars now say that the Dead Sea scrolls AREN'T pure Hebrew as the modern language is spoken. And God left you no personal record to study, Get over it. You're studying what someone else wrote down after having it repeated to him. Even the gospels disagree with each other. So it IS blind faith. You have nothing any stronger than those cave paintings but we know who ever painted them was actually picturing things that were real and lived surrounding him. Without blind faith, you cannot honestly make that statement.

"Fundamentalists" remind me a lot of the Amish. The Amish chose a rather convenient time to stop progress. The horse and buggy, air powered or belt driven equipment are OK, but TV's and radio aren't. Propane lights are OK, but electric ones aren't. Fundamentalists want to stop at the King James version of the interpretation and not be bothered with what language and liturgical scholars have found since that time. Convenient isn't it? Radical Muslims believe in the promise of virgins. Religion has in one way or another always sparked death and destruction with wars and pestilence. The secrets of the pyramids and the stones on Easter Island was destroyed by "Christians" who called the instructions "heresy". They tend to believe that anyone can be "saved" by "education", but when you look away from science and directly at history, you'll find the "Christians" don't have a very good track record.


George

This response submitted by KB on 2/17/05 at 12:43 AM. ( ) 65.161.239.4

I feel sorry for you. You're missing a wonderful relationship with your Creator by your choices and blindness (yes, YOUR blindness.) I could debate with you for weeks on here, and you still wouldn't look at what I'm trying to show you. I think my time's better spent praying for you. (BTW, I don't use the KJV) If you studied all this with an open mind, you would see what I'm talking about. I won't debate with you any more on this subject, since it's going nowhere. My reason for taking the time to talk about this on here (besides LIKING to talk about it) is the hope that someone reading this might learn something and get curious enough to check things out for himself, whether it be creation vs. evolution, or something else we've talked about. There's a very loving God out there Who wants a personal relationship with anyone willing to come to Him, and for those of us who have that, we want others to discover how wonderful He is! I can't speak for others who call themselves Christians, but for me, the motivation is love, and wanting to share the greatest thing in life with others. It's always going to offend some people, but others might listen.


KB, that's YOUR story

This response submitted by George on 2/17/05 at 10:42 AM. ( ) 205.188.116.135

The "relationship" I have is hardly suffering and I really don't need your interpretation to feel fullfilled. Another "Christian" falacy.


..

This response submitted by John Wilkie on 2/17/05 at 11:21 AM. ( ) 199.253.126.2

Brave enough to insult but to much of a coward to post your name! LOL
I still got you to read it! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


John,

This response submitted by KB on 2/17/05 at 2:42 PM. ( ) 65.161.239.4

What on earth are you talking about? You lost me with that post.


JW

This response submitted by .. on 2/17/05 at 9:46 PM. ( ) 4.226.144.248

It wasn't meant to be an insult it is just so remarkably silly. The sad thing is this kind of stuff is usually believed by the uneducated and elderly people. What a shame. And if you really need a name pick one.

Sam
Delores
Alfred
Ricky
Tabatha
Jordan
Tyler
Christie

Did you pick one? Does is make you feel better now?


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