Advice!

Submitted by Schuter on 4/23/05 at 2:42 PM. ( nospam-ahunter@hot.rr.com ) 24.242.52.56

Last year I took a turkey to a local taxidermist. He quoted me $850, I thought was a bit steep but he was supposed to be good so I agreed. I paid half down and he promised the bird back in 6 months. Well its been over a year on still no bird. I called a few months ago and was told that he would have it done before this turkey season started (my employee got sick....yada yada yada). Well this season is about over and still no turkey. What do you guys suggest?

Do I keep waiting?
Demand a refund?
What about my bird?

Thanks


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Pay him a visit

This response submitted by Evelyn on 4/23/05 at 3:55 PM. ( ) 205.188.116.200

Go by his shop and talk to him. This way you can find out the exact status of your bird. People are less likely to lie to you face to face. It is possible that he had problems in the last few months that through him behind in his work. Maybe he contracted your bird out and the contractor quit on him. Go and find out what is going on before you demand your deposit back and the bird.

If you feel that the guy is giving you the run a round while you are being there, you have every right to demand back your bird and possibly your deposit as well.

Did you sign a contract when you dropped the bird off? Did it state on the contract when the bird was suppose to be due? How much you paid him up front for it? Do youhave a receipt for your deposit you paid?

I would suggest to remedy this situation with diplomacy first. If that don't work and the guy won't finish your bird and won't let you have back your money, then go a file theft of service charges against him.

Good luck, and keep us informed on the status of the situation.


questions

This response submitted by schuter on 4/23/05 at 4:23 PM. ( ) 24.242.52.56

Did you sign a contract when you dropped the bird off? Did it state on the contract when the bird was suppose to be due? How much you paid him up front for it? Do youhave a receipt for your deposit you paid?


Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes.........


Call the game warden...

This response submitted by Craig on 4/23/05 at 5:39 PM. ( ) 66.66.226.179

and explain the situation. Ask him if he will accompany you to this taxidermist's place of business. Believe me that will wake him up.

Apparently you have just about exhausted all other possibilities other than visiting in person. If you are to visit him in person, by yourself, ask to see the skin and any work in progress. Let him know you are not pleased with the longer than anticipated return time. Excuses are like a$$holes, everyone has one. Since you signed a contract with his promise of no more than 6 months return time the contract is null and void as he has not fullfilled his end of the deal. You have every right to ask for your specimen back as well as your deposit, if you so choose. Keep in mind if you choose to do this any other taxidermist will put you on the end of their list and you might have another year long wait along with a possible small claims case to get your $425.00 deposit back. NOTE: If he is that far behind he probably doesn't have the cash flow to repay you.

I feel he is charging premium dollars for his work. Most guys don't charge over $650.00 for a turkey. The reason most taxidermists ask for 50% deposits is to make the client feel they are so invested that they will return to pay the remainder of the bill when the work is completed. At this point he is holding your trophy hostage and your deposit also! And giving all taxidermists a bad name.


Craig, ............say what?

This response submitted by Kim on 4/23/05 at 6:46 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

Craig,

Call the game warden? What in the hell does that person have to do with anything? IF no game laws have been broken, that warden has NO BUSINESS sticking his/her nose into anything! PERIOD. And that warden can be sued as an individual for misuse and abuse of his/her position of trust and power and if you get a really good lawfirm, that warden if he has no LEGAL right to be there can be charged with an act of malfeasence and violation of many little known federal laws.
You bring those people into a civil case like the one being explained, you are begging on your hands and knees for a major lawsuit! AND, depending on the exact situation, THE STATE can be held liable. But again, that depends on the LAWS of the state in question.

Also, better check that SIGNED contract; that is the FIRST thing a Lawyer is going to ask for and that is the ONLY thing that matters.

Calling the cops or the warden or the government is always what people want to do instead of handling the situation them selves. IF you understand freedom at all, you should know that the LESS government is involved, the better.

Ther are times that calling the police is the right thing to do but, they are not a cure all or replacement for knowing what and HOW to take care of business matters.


Might have jumped the gun

This response submitted by Craig on 4/23/05 at 7:13 PM. ( ) 66.66.226.179

This would be a last ditch effort rather than subject myself to the court systems of today, not my first move. I also wasn't referring to asking the LE to do a shakedown...just show presence. I don't like the law sticking their noses in anyone's business either but if "all other bridges have been crossed" then it wouldn't hurt. I'm sure if there was a possibility of lawsuit then the LE would let you know that and advise of other remedies. He might find it a good time to check this guy out. Most taxidermy licenses give carte blanc for these guys to do this anyway.

Law enforcement won't be able to remedy the situation if it ends up being a civil "case". The presence of an officer sometimes prevents things from proceding down this path.

These guys/gals have more clout than State Police in my state, why I have no clue, and have been used in the past to enter a premises without warrants when other LE agencies did not have the time to get them. I'm sure no lawsuits resulted because of these actions.

And I'm all for the Fourth Amendment and every other BoR issue.


Someone

This response submitted by Alex on 4/23/05 at 7:39 PM. ( ) 66.32.90.121

Had a nice thanksgiving dinner


Seems like many people are try to discredit

This response submitted by Sarah on 4/24/05 at 3:16 PM. ( ) 70.178.74.104

Wow, is the rest of the taxidermist so mad?

Call the law, get the game warden. It seems to me many are just so hatefull at anothers success.

I am still in high school but I think some of you need to get a breath of fresh air. You are acting like the first taxidermist has commited a murder.

Mr.Schuter just drop by and ask him in person nicely about when you can expect your turkey. Then you can either ask for it back or choose to wait. I am finding many many taxidermist especially the one who are doing poor quality work seem to be the most angry.

Any good taxidermist is going to have a backlog or be very high priced, many are both.

If you will look thru the websites of many of the taxidermist linked here you will see a lot of bad bad quality work and some of them are doing wholesale work too.

Go ask your taxidermist in person, I bet the intention is good but time constraints are the problem


Well, Sarah, got a lot of opinions, huh?

This response submitted by Dad and Mom on 4/25/05 at 12:00 AM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

It seems to me that your parents and "high school" have done well to teach you to speak up. That is good.
However, would you please tell all of us about the many long and hard years of life experience dealing with customers, taxidermy, paying bills, going to war and all of the other EXPERIENCE you must have under your belt? After all, all of us are just new people and do not know enough to impress you or even help a Lordly person such as yourself.

Be good and stay out of trouble!

DAD & MOM


First Mistake Was...

This response submitted by William on 4/25/05 at 12:51 AM. ( ) 68.53.102.244

Selecting a taxidermist who charges $850 to mount a Turkey! $400 to $600 is the going scale unless you just don't like doing them then you charge $850 !


Well Sarah, some good taxidermists do have backlogs...

This response submitted by Craig on 4/25/05 at 11:34 PM. ( ) 66.66.226.179

and longer than usual return times but they don't lie to their customers while charging exorbitant prices for mounts. I sometimes don't agree with how someone who calls him/herself a business person can be so dishonest to a paying customer, especially charging those prices. Or how they take in too much work and in reality just don't have the time to complete it in their specified time. Then the customer waits, and waits, and waits, and then finally posts a question on here asking what his next step should be. I will agree with William, this taxidermist either just doesn't like doing turkeys and charges higher than normal prices to dissuade the work or he is paying someone to wholesale them and he hasn't gotten the load back yet. Or he's just disorganized and has problems with time management. Or he likes to play too much. But whichever reason he has a client that is dissatisfied.

High school, huh? You still have a lifetime to learn about life. This is just the beginning of your journey. It's great to have an opinion and the willingness to express it through a forum like this. Glad to hear from you.


I agree with William

This response submitted by Buckeye on 4/27/05 at 7:38 PM. ( ) 68.233.97.63

The going rate around here (Southern Ohio, Eastern Kentucky) is $350- $400. $850 seems way to steep to me. I don't do birds, so I took my last turkey to a guy in Eastern Kentucky. He did a Full Strut mount with habitat base for $350, and it looks awesome. Better luck next time!


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