Idiots at the convience store the other day insulting

Submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/9/05 at 10:56 AM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

what we do for a living...

When I went up to the cash register to pay for some nitecrawlers the other day at a local convience store I was confronted by the most immature women (but believe it or not in her 20s) I have ever met. Along with the nitecrawlers (bait store is at least 10 miles from me and i needed them the next morning) I bought a couple of twinkies. Anyway the first comment out of her mouth was "Oooh are you going to eat the worms too?" Then she saw I happend to have a taxidermy logo on my sweatshirt and asked me, "Oooh how can you do that kind of work?" That's gross." Now I'm getting pissed but I bit my tongue. She keeps it up and doesn't know when to shut up. Then the manager comes in and she turns to her and says, "look what he does for a living!" Yuck! The manager replies equally insulting "Well someone has to do it," like I'm the local garbage man or something.

Believe it or not I did not say much, but the incident bothers me enough that I will be sending a letter to the management and will no longer get my gas or anything else there. And of course I will inform them of such.

I'll keep you guys posted on what my letter says and if I get a response if you're interested.

Of course I should have said something like, "How much money did you make today as a cashier? I made $900.00 today. (Had a good day that day) And I could have said I live in a $250.000 log home with a three car garage what do live in -- a trailer? That's what taxidermy does for me. But alas we always think of these things after the fact don't we?

I'm sure there are others of you that have had similar instances.

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oh well

This response submitted by bobbo on 10/9/05 at 11:20 AM. ( ) 65.30.133.101

ya always after the matter is when it pops up in your head. Oh well. Dont let it get to u. I would have confronted it right there but thats just the kind of guy i am. Super nice until u say something wrong or piss me off, then u are gonna have major problems.


Was she cute?

This response submitted by Mark on 10/9/05 at 11:41 AM. ( Shmockaloc@cox.net ) 70.191.114.10

First thing I thought hhahahah

[expletive deleted]m Cecil... Your living right so it doesnt matter.

"Im not going to waste my hate on you" "Im going to keep it all for myself" James Hetfield.

Write your family/friend a letter instead. That person at the register just wasnt thinking fast enough. He wasnt against you. He wanted to say something though.

Hang in there Cecil

Bobbo I would have told her to shut her ***-dumpster on the spot as well.


The Same thing here

This response submitted by Joey Arender on 10/9/05 at 11:42 AM. ( J32a@aol.com ) 152.163.100.133

When I went to file a application to seek two uses on my property as taxidermy being the second and to be done in a accessory structure. The lady that took my check says you want to do what, that's just gross. Then proceeded to tell me that the Zoning board would never allow that. Luckily she was wrong and at the meeting I got approved. I didn't bother me to much and I just told her all someone needs to do is love their job, in order to be happy with the rest of life and that at least I wasn't stuck behind some desk in someone else's office. That for some reason shut her up.


Scare them

This response submitted by Paul I on 10/9/05 at 11:48 AM. ( paulblastoatyahoo.com ) 209.210.34.253

Next time tell them you kill things and mount them.LOL Your not going to change these huggers so screw around with them and have fun watching their faces.


I sent the corporation this letter via their website

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/9/05 at 12:00 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

Dear Gas America,

As I'm sure you're aware, part of being successful in any business that deals with the public depends on how we present ourselves and our image to the public -- in many cases through employees. Therefore I thought you might want to know about my situation that occured at one of your stores the evening of Friday October 7th in Ligonier, Indiana. It not only lost me as a customer but similar behavior by an employee or employees may cause you to lose more business.

When I approached the cash register with some fishing bait and a snack I was asked by a very immature female cashier, "If I was going to eat the worms too?" That wasn't so bad, but the immaturity commenced into insults about what I do for a living after she saw a logo and what I do for a living on my sweatshirt.

I am a fish taxidermist and taxidermy educator by trade, and the logo represented the state association that I have been past president, treasurer, and board member of. The insults consisted of comments like, Ooooooh how can you do that?" That's gross" and continued nonstop. Then an apparent older manager or a coworker came in and the cashier turned to her and said, "Oooh yuck this guys stuffs dead animals." The reply from the other person was equally insulting with, "Well someone has to do it" as if I was the local garbage man or something.

I don't believe the insults were purposely malicious but lacked good judgement, and insulted me enough that as I said I won't be back. There is another covenience gas station accross the street, and although not as convenient to get in and out of will now be my destination.

Thank you for your time,

Sincerely,

Cecil Baird

I'll let you know what the response is if there is one. The site did welcome comments and emails from their customers. I have a card that I present at every purchase and they will know how much gas business they lost.

It may not mean much but I DO STICK UP FOR MYSELF and I DO DEFEND TAXIDERMY as a a good living and a contribution to society. I've done quite well in taxidermy and I'm not about to have some probable trailer trash with a dead end job insult me and get away with it.


All of us

This response submitted by rick on 10/9/05 at 12:06 PM. ( ) 24.188.140.84

can thank the movie "Psycho" for the way some people think of taxidermy. lol.


Cecil

This response submitted by G.W.B. on 10/9/05 at 12:06 PM. ( washington DC ) 66.6.181.97

you have to be kidding me. you drove 10 miles one way, to get night crawlers? how much gas did you burn? and to think you splurged and spent some of your hard earned cash on Twinkies! if it had cost me more in gas than the price of the night crawlers, than I guess I would have justified it by picking up a pack of twinkies myself. you should of opened the pack of twinkies, and shoved one each into the mouth of those that offened you so much. guess you didn't want to waste your hard earned money. and to think, that you would even consider wasting your time to write a letter of complaint to the management. geez,you need to run for public office.you would fit right in


I think you're being overly sensative Cecil...

This response submitted by marty on 10/9/05 at 12:26 PM. ( ) 24.15.107.136

If it bothers you so much, why write a letter? Why not just move on to another store and take your business elsewhere?

Some people are a bit set back by our profession, but most of that is based on not understanding anything about taxidermy. If she was an anti-type I would've ripped right into her right then and there. As far as the cashier, I doubt she was trying to insult you or even KNEW she insulted you.

Also FYI, you just insulted all the garbage men out there as well. So should they boycott YOU and stop picking up your garbage? Sounds like ticky-tacky P.C. crapola to me...


Cecil For President !

This response submitted by Mike Rodgers Black Forest Glass Eyes on 10/9/05 at 12:41 PM. ( michael.rodgers@web.de ) 62.180.196.145

Public office,...You got my Vote ! Horse sense, instead of Jackass !


Followed through

This response submitted by Mark on 10/9/05 at 12:42 PM. ( Shmockaloc@cox.net ) 70.191.114.10

Welp... Atleast you did for yourself what you nedded to.
Years ago a guy named Art Modell sold my NFL team. It was over a hissy argument w/ local government. The Browns became the Ravens. I swore them off. I swore the WHOLE NFL off. I havent watched one freaking game since. THEY DONT MISS ME ! hahaha shoo I felt better about myself and dont sit on the couch for 2 games in a row on Sundays. Keep rolling Cecil
mark


garbage men

This response submitted by DEERMEISTER on 10/9/05 at 1:20 PM. ( ) 155.84.101.2

Why are you insulting garbage men and people who live in trailor houses? I at one time lived in a trailor house, was a taxidermist, and a part time janitor! I guess it can't get any lower than that!


What a joke

This response submitted by GWB on 10/9/05 at 1:25 PM. ( washington dc ) 66.6.189.225

Cecil! you are pathetic. Maybe next time you drive 10 miles one way for some worms and twinkies, you should pick up some baby wipes and huggies for yourself. as per your quote in that joke of a letter " being successful in any business that deals with the public depends on how we present ourselves and our image to the public". well all I have to say is you had better put your diapers on, and "your" image to the public as far as I am concerned is childish, and not representitive to all in this field. I am quite sure, that your letter will be forwarded to the CEO of gas america, and a national press release in that company will hit the office of every gas stop from coast to coast telling them that any customer that is a taxidermist should be treated with dignity and respect just like any other american citizen. go change your diapers and grow up!


Easy now GWB... It is freedom of choice and speach..

This response submitted by Rick Krane on 10/9/05 at 1:57 PM. ( rmkinc1@msn.com ) 70.16.220.159

GWB...:)
It is ok to disagree with Cecil and do it in any way you wish but there are guild lines on the forum about personal attacks. Cecil was telling a story and even if he choice to drive 10 miles for worms or Twinkies (god only knows! LOL!) He can do that if he can live with his choices. I drive my truck and boat to fish some times more than 10 mile because of where I live. I do it because it is part of my life and what that brings me joy in these times of trying times. May be that is Cecil's deal as well. May be this week he needed to get some worms and fish or eat them with Twinkies ( kidding LOL) but I know you have been there too GWB, we all have. Some time you have to just go fishing or what ever it you do that may bring your day closer to happiness for you. If we think or not that Cecil is being sensitive or foolish or what ever first we are not him or walked in his shoes this week. Probably wouldn't fit me any way (LOL)

Not that I'm into rules or regulations (see rule # 4 of the forum) however if I choice too I can tangle back side with any one on here with out getting personal or attacking some ones character publicly. I think some times that is best saved for privet moments if the need arises or it could all lead to rule #9.

I However I get your point just not your delivery. You have freedom of speech and you use it to the best of your ability to get your point across. Now I know you can do that with out the personal stuff. You have passion so use it in a constructive way!
My best!
Rick Krane
Anglers Artistry
312 Chesterfield Rd
Hinsdale, NH 03451
603.336.7296


Well in your eagerness to flame me

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/9/05 at 2:34 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

some of you failed to read my post very well. Or maybe you failed reading comprehension in school? LOL

If you go back you will see I NEVER said I drove 10 miles to get nitecrawlers or twinkies. I said the nearest bait store was 10 miles away therefore that is why I got them at the convenience store which btw was only 2 miles away.

As far as the trailer trash and the garbage man comments, weren't those the opposite of being poltically correct? You can't have it both way folks.


Richard, thanks for the back up.

Marty, if we all took your attitude of just let it go and never correct a wrong or ignorance where would this country be? Isn't that what the NRA is trying to do and The Sportsman's Allicance? Come on now. You know what happens to groups if they don't speak up don't you? Shouldn't we be trying to educate the public or at least put them on notice we are an industry not to be ridiculed?


Cecil

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 10/9/05 at 5:06 PM. ( ) 66.133.135.24

I wouldve said "No, the worms are fishing bait, I use the twinkies to bait simple young cashiers". Cecil, you probably were being a bit sensitive to the comments, Im willing to bet they just wanted to have a laugh at your expense. I mean that sincerely. Then again, who knows, maybe she thought you were cute, or knew you used to be in a rock band or something, hehe. Next time they chime in about yuck you do taxidermy, just tell them it kept you from having to take a cashiers job at a gas station that sells fish bait...


I would have

This response submitted by Alex on 10/9/05 at 5:46 PM. ( ) 66.32.14.145

Started to clean my nails with my buck knife and said something like, well I do fish and animals but i haven't done a woman in a long time, iam looking for one right now to do a full body mount ,left turn open mouth wearing Jeans and that color blouse.

Bet you, she won't bug you again, LOL


O.K. whatever ...

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/9/05 at 8:14 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

BTW I hate to disappoint you guys but if I wanted to mount her I would have had to have a homely cow form. LOL

Maybe I'm a bit touchy because this is the third time someone insulted me for what I do for a living. Funny thing is they've all been mouthy women. The first was an nurse's aid when I was studying to be an RN and doing taxidermy on the side. She wanted to know how I could do such a thing. I did have a good response for her. I asked her how she could change bedpans all day.

The other was when I took some reference photos in to be developed at a one hour photo of decapitated deer heads. LOL I suppose to the average person they were gross, but I wanted them for reference as I was getting into competing on deer heads back then. I was told by the girl at the photo center in no uncertain terms I should be ashamed of myself. She made me feel like I had turned in photos of naked childern or something.

Sorry guys but the ol' man who was a Green Beret told me not to take crap from anybody. Stand up for yourself because no one else will. He said the worst they can do is beat you up - so what? He said if the guy is bigger just even things up with crow bar or something. He does have a nose that has been busted so many times he can't breath through his nose anymore from bar brawls and military branch rivals. :-)


Cecil

This response submitted by JL on 10/9/05 at 9:42 PM. ( wmlures!@metro2000.net ) 216.177.1.143

....You should have told her that you were also a yucky Democrat. Now that would have really turned her stomach.....lol. Have another Twinkie.


Cecil , you lose

This response submitted by PMVWRC on 10/9/05 at 9:44 PM. ( ) 65.73.67.30

you had the perfect opertunity to talk to this girl and perhaps get her to understand some truths about fishing and taxidermy and you blew it . Now you know what it is like meeting yourself - LOL . Your bad .


the store will probably send you some coupons

This response submitted by Al on 10/9/05 at 10:23 PM. ( ) 207.67.145.152

so you can buy more Twinkies.

Taxidermy? Well, that's what you do, so, so what? Don't lose any sleep.


<><>HUMM<><>

This response submitted by EARL on 10/9/05 at 10:27 PM. ( ANTLERSANDWINGS@COMCAST.NET ) 68.82.184.251

Have her asss fired..


Hang In There, Cecil.....

This response submitted by Becky on 10/9/05 at 10:38 PM. ( ) 69.251.85.185

I am a young woman and a taxidermist, and I have to say that most of the rude comments I have heard have been from women as well. Most of them have their heads in the sand, and usually make rude comments about taxidermy and hunting while they are eating a hot dog or a Big Mac. Lately, I have been in debates with people who think hunting and taxidermy are "wrong," yet they eat meat and probably own leather items. (How can someone think hunting is wrong, but eating chicken, pigs, and cows from factory-line farms is right?) People are just stupid, I guess. I am sorry this girl bothered you, but we unfortunately must share our world with ignorant, closed-minded fools! Take pleasure in knowing that you love your way of life much more than she loves her lousy job!
Becky


Cecil

This response submitted by Richard C on 10/9/05 at 10:44 PM. ( ) 4.156.243.240

I can't belive you "bit your tongue". That has happened to me MANY times, but I'm in a very politicaly correct liberal democratic area.There into same sex marrage and abortion rights here.
The garbage statement wasn't far off the mark. In the Hindu Caste system in India ,the undertakers, garbage men and taxidermists couldn't live in the town or city as they were unclean, unpure the untouchables. That is why I could never understand why or how Raj ended up in the taxidermy supply business and thats why I never bought anything off of his company.


Evil Grin

This response submitted by Ron P. on 10/10/05 at 12:53 AM. ( ) 70.106.141.4

"Ooooo how can you do a yucky think like that for a living?"
"Well maam, its actualy quite interesting and educational." (put on your best serial killer face here) Youd be amazed at how much you can learn about anatomy for example...Did you know that you can completely dismantle a body without ever touching a hacksaw?"
End of discussion.


George's experience

This response submitted by Forrest Sue on 10/10/05 at 1:30 PM. ( forrestzoo@earthlink.net ) 67.77.128.224

Wow,, I know the feeling George, I have gotten remarks like that too. And I REALLY get the looks when they find out what I do cause I'm a woman. And btw MOST of the comments come from women. Here is one rule I have that ALL my customers know. When you come to my shop don't bring your wife/girlfriend/mother/sister/aunt or grandmother. They are not allowed. It took me one jealous wife that trashed my profession to send me over the edge.


Taking a stand for Taxidermy has to start somewhere!

This response submitted by Kim on 10/10/05 at 6:32 PM. ( ) 69.171.240.121

If us taxidermist don't stand up and start defending our self, who will? The facts will come from us. Everyone else knows very little to mostly nothing.


Cecil

This response submitted by DaveT on 10/11/05 at 6:47 PM. ( ) 24.32.86.13

You always make a fuss about folks calling others names when they have a different opinion.... wellllllllll

DaveT


But Dave you told me...

This response submitted by Cecil 64.184.41.234 on 10/11/05 at 11:23 PM. ( ) 64.184.41.190

If the shoe fits wear it! LOL


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